Narcissistic Personality Disorder is not unusual. Malignant Narcissism, which Trump has in my nonprofessional opinion, is more severe. But what do I know?
--- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Wed, Nov 6, 2024, 1:33 PM glen <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote: > Gemini needs to check its sources. 8^D > > "Typical features of narcissistic personality disorder are variable and > vulnerable self esteem, with attempts at regulation through attention and > approval seeking, and either overt or covert grandiosity." > > Like grandiosity, attention and approval seeking can be overt or covert, > as well. One type of covert attention seeking is claiming that you're > "worthy" whereas others are not, especially in a room full of those the > narcissist thinks are not worthy. > > On 11/6/24 12:11, Marcus Daniels wrote: > > Ah, as Gemini explains.. I meant the latter. A covert action can’t be > NPD because it could not receive admiration nor be presented as boastful. > (In the series he has some conspirators, I don’t recall they were very > cult-like.) > > > > *Normal narcissism* > > > > A healthy or exaggerated narcissism that is not a psychiatric disorder. > It can be characterized by self-determination, arrogance, and intolerance > of obstacles. > > > > > > *Narcissistic personality disorder* > > > > A mental health condition that is characterized by a pervasive pattern > of grandiosity, a need for admiration, and a lack of empathy. People with > NPD may appear arrogant, boastful, or unlikeable. They may also have an > inflated sense of their own importance, and lack the ability to understand > or care about the feelings of others. NPD is a lifelong condition that can > be treated, but there is no cure. > > > > *From: *Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> on behalf of glen < > geprope...@gmail.com> > > *Date: *Wednesday, November 6, 2024 at 11:53 AM > > *To: *friam@redfish.com <friam@redfish.com> > > *Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] How democracies die > > > > Nah. I've met a lot of covert narcissists who take cover behind things > like "the spectrum" or "awkwardness" or whatever. And narcissism need not > be debilitating (diagnosable) to have a canalizing impact. A hallmark is > the arrogant claim they *know* what the greater good is, much less how to > get there. > > > > On 11/6/24 11:44, Marcus Daniels wrote: > >> I didn’t get that from the character. A sociopath, sure, but for the > greater good and not out for attention. > >> > >> *From: *Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> on behalf of glen < > geprope...@gmail.com> > >> *Date: *Wednesday, November 6, 2024 at 11:40 AM > >> *To: *friam@redfish.com <friam@redfish.com> > >> *Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] How democracies die > >> > >> IDK. I don't really analyze cultural artifacts much or very well. But > the next sentence might be helpful: "Everything I do is a cure for our > current situation." So it's less about cutting his audience/herd into the > meritorious versus the meritless and more about his narcissism or > arrogance. It's an elevation of him above the herd. > >> > >> On 11/6/24 11:28, steve smith wrote: > >>> glen wrote: > >>> > >>>> I agree. The crossover terms constrain the ungrounded phrases. The > more crossover terms, the more constrained the ungrounded terms. Had Kevin > said "What have you done to land you in that place in the world?", then it > would imply a more constrained space of possible groundings. Prolly > wouldn't have the necessary moralized narrative, though. > >>> > >>> I took it to be specifically manipulative, suggesting both credit and > blame to double-team the person being confronted with a "header and a > heeler", "a carrot and a stick"... > >>> > >>> Is that in fact, the point of moralized narratives? To "herd" ? > >>> > >>> Though I think Kevin's goal was actually "cutting" or "singling" in > the herding vernacular. > >>> > > > > > -- > ꙮ Mɥǝu ǝlǝdɥɐuʇs ɟᴉƃɥʇ' ʇɥǝ ƃɹɐss snɟɟǝɹs˙ ꙮ > > .- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. / > ... --- -- . / .- .-. . / ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-.. > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom > https://bit.ly/virtualfriam > to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: 5/2017 thru present > https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >
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