Hm. Implicit in the question "what have you done to earn" is will power or free 
will or somesuch. But the denial of (free) will is *not* the denial of development, nor 
is it the denial that credit/blame can be ascribed to people (regardless of whether they 
deserve it or not).

Moral luck posits that you can both be awarded and blamed for consequences for which 
you're the primary agent without positing that you deserve the award or blame. But 
whatever constructive "axioms" underly development are still there, still 
operative ... just without the metaphysics.

On 11/6/24 10:12, Marcus Daniels wrote:
If we deny that value can be developed from simple axioms, then one can 
certainly deny value that is asserted without that development.   The 
collective nor the individual have any inherent value.

*From: *Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> on behalf of glen 
<geprope...@gmail.com>
*Date: *Wednesday, November 6, 2024 at 9:57 AM
*To: *friam@redfish.com <friam@redfish.com>
*Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] How democracies die

My answer? Nothing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_meritocracy 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_meritocracy> And anyone who thinks they 
have done something to earn their place is sorely mistaken, whether the earning takes 
the form of credit or blame, whether their place is high or low.

On 11/6/24 09:44, Marcus Daniels wrote:
"What have you done to earn your place in this crowded world?"  Dr. Kevin 
Christie
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