On 6/12/2020 11:38 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 1:34 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:On 6/10/2020 8:50 AM, Jason Resch wrote: > Thought perhaps there's an argument to be made from the church Turing > theses, which pertains to possible states of knowledge accessible to a > computer program/software. If consciousness is viewed as software then > Church-Turing thesis implies that software could never know/realize if > it's ultimate computing substrate changed. I don't understand the import of this. The very concept of software mean "independent of hardware" by definition. It is not affected by whether CT is true or not, whether the computation is finite or not.You're right. The only relevance of CT is it means any software can be run by any universal hardware. There's not some software that requires special hardware of a certain kind.If you think that consciousness evolved then it is an obvious inference that consciousness would not include consciousness of it's hardware implementation.If consciousness is software, it can't know its hardware. But some like Searle or Penrose think the hardware is important.
I think the hardware is important when you're talking about a computer that is emerged in some environment. The hardware can define the the interaction with that environment. We idealize the brain as a computer independent of it's physical instantiation...but that's just a theoretical simplification.
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