The universal guarantee of due process is in the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which provides "No person shall…be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law," and is applied to all states by the 14th Amendment. From this basic principle flows many legal decisions determining both procedural and substantive rights.
Cited from your own legal stuff. So, no. Illegals should be treated with due process of law. That's not the same as being allowed into a country or getting whatever you want. However, the US has not been great at due process before Maga et al so maybe we should not be surprised at the current state of affairs. If you come to Sweden in an illegal way you will be kindly kicked out with due process of law. There are lots of rights afforded to someone entering the country illegally. Not being sent to a concentration camp abroad for example? Even more to your own citizens and your heroic jackboots seems to ignore even that. When it comes to people's democratic Republics, I do not want any fuck at all with them. Not China, not Russia not north Korea nor anything with MAGA USA. Europe (Sweden in my case) don't want nothing with China, bunch of autocratic fascist. If you suddenly are so bloody paranoid about them, maybe you shouldn't alienate the continent that foolishly thought they were allied with you. And also who until a tradewar started by trump wanted nothing more than continuous trade with the USA. Now fascist in the west, fascist in the east. Who should we give our money? We don't want no-one of them. Maybe all the other continents? Den ons 7 maj 2025 16:25'[email protected]' via Everything List < [email protected]> skrev: > Henrik, no. Those who enter illegally have no due process, historically. > Due process only applied to citizens and legal residents. This has been > supported by consecutive Supreme Court rulings. It is also reciprocated by > other nations the illegals enter from where illegals have come from. I > can't go to Bolivia and demand due process before they kick me out, for > example. > > Now, the succession of California seems achievable, and since the > neighboring states Oregon and Washington are similarly ideological, > yourPeople's Republic has a better chance. Should we plan for hostilities > netqween us, or are you going to have the People's Republic of China defend > you, an outsourcing? > > On Wednesday, May 7, 2025 at 12:17:45 AM EDT, Henrik Ohrstrom < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Yes, a split where california splits of from the people's democratic > Republic of America would be good for the californians. I certainly > agree. > > Do you think that people, not just US citizens, but everyone are entitled > to due process before getting deported? > > Den ons 7 maj 2025 01:04'[email protected]' via Everything List < > [email protected]> skrev: > > The bottom line is that your fix for the world's ills have gotten us > nowhere. But because of ideology, you won't self correct. Promising and > never delivering is not a cool thing. That a plurality of the American > people have walked away from this should be no surprise. Deliver the goods > or go home. This is factual in the US, Canada and yes, dear Europe. No > excuses for Dem paymasters like the Open Society Foundation (George), The > Rockerfeller Brothers Fund, Reid Hoffman of LinkedIn, or some declining > Entertainment Bozos.While I have your attention, what do you feel about a > national split? Could it work? > > On Tuesday, May 6, 2025 at 05:25:29 PM EDT, PGC <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > On Tuesday, May 6, 2025 at 8:00:26 PM UTC+2 [email protected] wrote: > > Woke? no, I am anti-Woke. Simply cuz its damaging to the societies that do > woke crap, based on being nice nice on say, race, sex, with no other > discerning qualification, such as say, temperment, or math skill. Are you > going to hold yourself as the "authority," on all issues? I don't. > Especially, if I get my conclusions by people who seem to be accurate. But, > knock yourself out, if this suits you? > > > You’ve panicked and gone full kitchen sink—tariffs, Islamists, civil war, > John Kerry, Saul Alinsky, cobalt mines, hydrogen cars, witch trials, and a > 2014 oligarchy study—without addressing a single claim with real evidence > or updated economic data. That’s the clearest sign you’re dodging: flood > the conversation with chaos, so no fact can breathe. > > The MSN headline about manufacturers being “overwhelmed” sounds dramatic, > but it’s cherry-picked PR from trade groups and doesn't reflect sustained > economic impact. Real data shows Trump's tariffs raised costs for U.S. > companies and consumers, shrank export markets, and didn't bring supply > chains home. > [Source: Peterson Institute, Brookings, National Bureau of Economic > Research] > > As for AfD and immigration: nobody needs to “accuse”—AfD is officially > under surveillance by German intelligence for extremist ties. Jewish and > democratic watchdogs aren’t buying the “they’re just patriotic” spin. > That’s not witch-hunting, that’s called evidence-based national security. > [Source: Bundesamt für Verfassungsschutz (BfV), Deutsche Welle] > > But no, I am not for prohibiting them. They should, like you here, be made > to answer questions. Then everybody gets to see the full kitchen sink of > dodging + nonsense they're offering without the algorithmic glow of the > forbidden tinfoil thing only they have been able to uncover. > > Your rant about Gore promising hydrogen cars and being let down is cute, > but also irrelevant. Or do you feel entitled to get a car from voting? > Mitch, you just confused... boy. Meanwhile, EVs are booming thanks to > policies Gore advocated. That’s progress, not betrayal. > > Citing the 2014 “oligarchy” study from UPI doesn’t prove "your side" is > right—it proves the entire system has deep structural issues. But guess > what? Trump didn't dismantle oligarchy. He staffed it. Hedge funds, oil > barons, media owners—they didn’t lose power under him. They gained. > > On cobalt: yes, mining it is a serious ethical issue. So is oil > extraction, rare earth exploitation, and coal burning. Progress means > fixing the problems, not retreating into 1950s nostalgia with wood-fired > nationalist fantasy and tinfoil geopolitics. > > Finally, quoting Alinsky doesn’t cover the fact you haven’t offered a real > alternative—just a patchwork of slogans, resentments, and threats of civil > war. That’s not vision. That’s emotional escapism. And it's why > conspiratorial movements always have to up the ante: because reality > doesn't validate them—so the fiction must grow louder. > > And citing every topic under the sun to divert attention from the lack of > substance and no ability to read pie charts... Why anybody would talk > physics or fundamental science with you, who is both woke (where's my > hydrogen car, mom? Mom?! Look at me, I is doing Physics! Cuz I is as smart > as the woke cuz I post with them? I read PkD? I knows the bible...) and > anti-woke (tariffs, islamists, civil war, Alinsky). This is 1984 > doublespeak par excellence. > > Lol, ROI? Cutting fundamental cancer research because it lacks immediate > ROI is short-sighted. Fundamental discoveries often take years, sometimes > over a thousand—or a moment of insight—to revolutionize medicine, > engineering, and all the other woke projects running since 2000 years. > Penicillin, mRNA tech, CRISPR: all came from basic research. If we must > speak economically, fundamental science delivers the highest long-term > return of any human endeavor. The fact that we can’t predict when a > breakthrough comes is why we keep funding it. You suck up to woke authors, > hate the woke, call them Professor, pretend to be interested in their work, > like the sycophant culture around the guy, you were disillusioned with a > few years ago, only to vote him back in, and believe the Coollaid a second > time, with full access to evidence the first time around. > > Nah, you don't deserve to be silenced and I won't be your authority. You > deserve to be platformed for all to see. Like every despot-in-chief, like > the last time, and the times ahead. We need your historical example. And > nope, you don't need my refutation. I just have to hold up a pie chart and > you run to PKD, Alinsky, cry about your missing hydrogen car, and denounce > fundamental science while sucking dicks on a fundamental science list. > > And yes, people should see this over and over again. So post yourself > forward to forget this as fast as you can. 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