I cite sources. You tag woke shit. On Tuesday, May 6, 2025 at 7:03:33 PM UTC+2 [email protected] wrote:
> I did like the irony of the Roy Batty scene, so keep using it. > You have zero refutation of what I have claimed, which is ok, supposidly > the reader must rely on your own, personal, authenticity? Let us know, if > you'd like, if you have any reasons from someone authoratative? Or, are you > just venting your amygdala? That's ok too. Lets just say we all have tried > things your way, and it ain't so great, in the streets of the US & the > world. . > > On Tuesday, May 6, 2025 at 11:18:34 AM EDT, Quentin Anciaux < > [email protected]> wrote: > Souch falsehood on one email, unfortunately magats are irredeemable, > you’re brainwashed and part of cult... to paraphrase you... ciao ! > > All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. (Roy > Batty/Rutger Hauer) > > Le mar. 6 mai 2025, 16:07, '[email protected]' via Everything List < > [email protected]> a écrit : > > I usually can back uo my claims when its worth it? I, also can claim, with > great, confidence, that the MSM is a wholly owned subsidiary of the D > party. If you cannot objectively look at counter claims, that is not my > cross to bear. The Donald is a gambler, so based on what happens in the > real world, I am willing to see when he succeeds or fails? Let us all FAFO > and consider it an experiement? Color me Not Risk Averse. Krugman is a > centrist like Bernie Sanders is a "Social Democrat," a figleaf to cover Joe > Stalin, or as I term it, Joe Stalin in a Dior evening gown. More precisely, > its the flavor or the EU and its increasingly, tyranical, practices. > Starmer arrests and jails people for posting unpleasent items in FaceBook. > France and Germany ban parties, & candidates, obstensibly to save us all > from Nazis.Personally, for National Socialists, I'd prefer to battle them > in the streets myself, then ban AdD, which is less anti-Semitic in action, > then, say, Macron's Socialist Party, or the German Social Democrats, > Starmer's Labor, in my opinion. The US Demoicrats have surely become the > true party of hate domestically, So for me, there's no going back.. > > Domestically, the last Democratic candidate I voted for was Al Gore. He > promised me a hydrogen powered car. So after 25 years, where's my hydrogen > powered car? So, we all evolve as we must to survive. Or as a real > economist, Thomas Sowell said: "Life isn't always about fixes. Life is > often about trade offs." > > Ciao! > > On Tuesday, May 6, 2025 at 08:58:21 AM EDT, PGC <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Zero facts and nothing but parroting the worst quality right wing feeds. > Also, still not anything on-topic for this list. > > You say “technology may rob us all,” yet back a political figure whose > actual economic policies fast-track that very outcome. Under Trump, wealth > consolidation accelerated: massive tax cuts went to corporations and the > ultra-wealthy, with no structural plan for middle-class revival. Tariffs > were sold as populist rebalancing but were passed onto consumers, raising > prices while the promised return of industrial jobs never materialized in > any sustained way. If anything, his approach gutted government capacity to > respond to crises while increasing military spending—classic upward wealth > transfer disguised as populism. > > Your lament about globalism and NAFTA mirrors critiques even centrists > like Krugman have admitted, but cherry-picking Krugman’s disillusionment > ignores the broader context: the devastation came not just from trade deals > but from how governments responded. Instead of reinvesting the gains into > worker retraining, infrastructure, or regional development, > politicians—yes, across parties—let financial elites capture the surplus. > Trump didn’t reverse this trend; he turbocharged it. His administration > systematically weakened labor protections, environmental regulations, and > oversight of wealth concentration while appointing Goldman Sachs alumni to > key economic posts. > > As for immigration and crime, the evidence doesn't support your narrative. > Violent crime rates have trended down for decades and immigrants—documented > or otherwise—commit crimes at lower rates than native-born citizens. The > Census counting noncitizens has always been part of constitutional > apportionment; it’s not a Democratic conspiracy, it’s how representative > democracy functions. If that bothers you, your problem is with the > Constitution, not a political party. > > The idea that NGOs are a front for DNC offspring is a conspiratorial red > herring. USAID and similar agencies, while imperfect, operate under > bipartisan oversight and fund a wide range of global programs including > health initiatives, disaster relief, and democratic development. If $4.7 > trillion is “untraceable,” that’s not a documented fact but an inflated, > context-free talking point—often spread through misreadings of budget line > items over decades. If you cheer cuts to USAID and global aid efforts, > understand what you're applauding: more children without clean water, more > mothers unable to access medicine, more communities left to starve after > floods and droughts. These aren't abstract numbers—they're kids going blind > from vitamin deficiency, infants dying from preventable diarrhea, entire > generations locked into cycles of poverty and illness. That’s the > real-world impact of defunding humanitarian infrastructure. It’s what Pope > Francis tried to warn against: a world where cruelty is excused as > efficiency, and solidarity dismissed as weakness. Supporting leaders who > gut aid while boosting military budgets and shielding billionaires isn't > anti-elitist—it's just punishing the poor for being born on the wrong side > of a border. The suffering is real. And if we fund bombs but not bread, > history will remember who made that choice. And if you cannot see this, > then it's you and people like you who don't have genuine faith in their > god/religion while bashing godless progressives. > > Ironically, you propose AI governance as a “fix” to the oligarchy, even as > you fear it being controlled by billionaires. That contradiction captures > the core issue: rage against elites without a coherent solution. Trump > isn’t the enemy of oligarchy—he’s its current mascot. His policies, his > instincts, his allies all serve the concentration of power and wealth. The > middle class is a talking point, not a beneficiary. > > If you're serious about solutions, start by demanding transparency, > fairness in taxation, real infrastructure investment, labor empowerment, > and a democratic system where both parties are accountable to the public, > not just donors. On this, everybody agrees. No matter party lines. But that > means rejecting empty populism and looking closely at results—not just > slogans and flattering feeds; to go around and pretend you know something > beyond your opinion. If you can't take part in the science orientation of > the list without re-posting woke work, stick to facts that are verifiable > from multiple perspectives instead of blindly following the algorithm and a > "leader", whose actions lead to increased deaths of children etc. for his > bottom line. Also wonder: where is Ukrainian peace and all the > affordability with money falling from the sky. Let us know, when tariffs > materialize that for you and you can buy yourself a dinner with Jesus > through meme coin purchase. > > > On Tuesday, May 6, 2025 at 2:31:31 PM UTC+2 [email protected] wrote: > > Technology may rob us all if the super rich can profit off each other > alone, and ignore the useless eaters of the middle class and poor? Like the > scifi film 2013 Elysium. That is a discussion beyond the capabilities of > this wee forum, say I. Globalism and NAFTA its a failure. for the middle > class. Even NYT economist and agiotprop Paul Krugman, declared it so a > couple of years back. Plus, the wonder-world promised by money men, Soros > and his brother Klaus Schwab never came about. Their anti-nationalist > ideology paid nothing out, like a bad slot machine that never pays. The UN > for war-a failure. The WEF/EU? A sad experiemnt that looks like it was a > means to crush the locals, by importing their own voters and enforcers. > > The Democrats did this with the open border policiy. 11.5 million illegals > in, to be counted in the US Census as residents to apportion the Dems more > congressional seats. Globally for immigration and street crime? A very bady > move, again playing immigrants directly against nationalist-leaning locals, > purposefully. > > In the US the amount of cash gone to NGO's, a wholly -owned subsidiary of > the D-party's leaders and their offspring, mean't to appear virtuous, has > caused 4.7 trillion dollars in over 12 years become untraceable. Much of > this went to USAID, which JC has lamented its closure. > > I say we can all do better. What's the fixes? Well, politically, I do have > to say (being a nutter) that AI governance is worth looking at.Yes, he he > owns the companies, would then rule the serfs via AI. But its a way > potentially of breaking oligarchs. In any case, reducing the immigration of > hostiles is a start. Deportation of hostiles is something I support. Having > US taxpayers invest a tiny portion of their income to the markets, has > made US Congressional politicians quite wealthy. So if it works for Nancy > Pelosi, and it does, , why not for the rest of us? Let us copy their > corrupt method to ensure a R.O.I.? R&D with directed goals, say on energy > and medicine is another factor. Space, yes, energy and minerals in > abundance. Blank checks, say with fusion for 70 years seems unproductive. > I'm still waiting pervoskite solar cells too. > > That's my laundry list for now, The US has long not been a republic. We're > an oligarchy, a plutocracy, properly, where the very rich get their > policies enacted for their benefit, while appearing virtuous. Typically, > via a single party. > > > > On Monday, May 5, 2025 at 12:18:32 PM EDT, PGC <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > On Sunday, May 4, 2025 at 10:23:07 PM UTC+2 [email protected] wrote: > > Actually, yes he is* bombastic*, and puts that in the process with > negotiations. Sometimes it even works! At the end of the day, its not > personality that we serfs live and die upon, but rather public policies. I > hold that the Starmer-Soros-Schwab-WEF-Macon-Obama- policies have worked > very, aggressively badly. In real life, planet earth. Just as Britons tend > to think differently than yanks, Comrade Xi, Putin, and the Ayatollahs > think differently than both of us. For pragmatic reasons, I'd have sided > with the previous boys IF these were good for the middle class. Sadly they > weren't. > > So, for most of us, its substance over style. One can be extremely > charming as all UK PM's ever is, but either accomplish zero (not the worst > option) or force things to go sideways. For me, to quote the late, humor > writer PJ O'Rourke, "I'm an American, I want to solve problems with > technology, not politics." An imaginary example of this might be 3D > printing. If we could print all we needed via 3D printing (Or nanotech), > then the disparities supposedly provided by socialislm, would never be > needed. Because, if we print all we need, cheap, who needs a government? > > > All you do is quote other fringe ideas when questioned. Nothing of that > benefits or feeds people now. Irrelevant. Calling Trump “substance over > style” misses the point entirely. His style—cruelty without wit, mockery > without humor—isn’t some negotiating tactic, it’s how he consolidates > power. He silences critics, not with arguments, but with smears and jeers. > That’s not leadership, that’s bullying. > > As for substance: there is no serious plan to help the middle class. > Tariffs and tax cuts are not a strategy—they're a smokescreen. Tariffs > raise prices on everyday goods, hurting working families, not billionaires. > Meanwhile, tax cuts—like those he passed in 2017—disproportionately benefit > the ultra-wealthy. Cutting government jobs and “draining the swamp” sounds > tough, but it’s just a way to slash services while funneling more money > upward. > > If you're in the middle class and supporting this, you'd better hope it > doesn’t work—because you're the one paying for it. There’s no plan for > sustainable jobs, no serious industrial policy, and no honest accounting of > how gutting agencies while ballooning defense spending to $1 trillion will > do anything but shift more burden onto you. > > > > Also, because I never miss an opportunity to promote technology as useful > to us primates, I will end this convo with today's vid by physicist Sabine > Hossenfelder regarding a somewhat improved hypothesis on why black holes > are suitable for quantum computing. Older idea, new take. > > > Technology is useful for robbing you and is out-of-topic. But the idiot > here is yours truly, as the expectation for you to focus on one thing and > discuss it, is more ludicrous than answering where the money for those tax > breaks and military spending will come from. You want to speak physics of > quantum computers? Then do the list a favor and have a single thought of > your own, an equation, a contribution, without quoting some woke expert. > Otherwise it's your usual camo of dressing up your "posts" with woke work > to fake a sophistication and/or depth that doesn't exist. Nobody cares > about our opinions, Mitch. 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