I did like the irony of the Roy Batty scene, so keep using it.You have zero
refutation of what I have claimed, which is ok, supposidly the reader must rely
on your own, personal, authenticity? Let us know, if you'd like, if you have
any reasons from someone authoratative? Or, are you just venting your amygdala?
That's ok too. Lets just say we all have tried things your way, and it ain't so
great, in the streets of the US & the world. .
On Tuesday, May 6, 2025 at 11:18:34 AM EDT, Quentin Anciaux
<[email protected]> wrote:
Souch falsehood on one email, unfortunately magats are irredeemable, you’re
brainwashed and part of cult... to paraphrase you... ciao !
All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. (Roy Batty/Rutger
Hauer)
Le mar. 6 mai 2025, 16:07, '[email protected]' via Everything List
<[email protected]> a écrit :
I usually can back uo my claims when its worth it? I, also can claim, with
great, confidence, that the MSM is a wholly owned subsidiary of the D party. If
you cannot objectively look at counter claims, that is not my cross to bear.
The Donald is a gambler, so based on what happens in the real world, I am
willing to see when he succeeds or fails? Let us all FAFO and consider it an
experiement? Color me Not Risk Averse. Krugman is a centrist like Bernie
Sanders is a "Social Democrat," a figleaf to cover Joe Stalin, or as I term it,
Joe Stalin in a Dior evening gown. More precisely, its the flavor or the EU and
its increasingly, tyranical, practices. Starmer arrests and jails people for
posting unpleasent items in FaceBook. France and Germany ban parties, &
candidates, obstensibly to save us all from Nazis.Personally, for National
Socialists, I'd prefer to battle them in the streets myself, then ban AdD,
which is less anti-Semitic in action, then, say, Macron's Socialist Party, or
the German Social Democrats, Starmer's Labor, in my opinion. The US Demoicrats
have surely become the true party of hate domestically, So for me, there's no
going back..
Domestically, the last Democratic candidate I voted for was Al Gore. He
promised me a hydrogen powered car. So after 25 years, where's my hydrogen
powered car? So, we all evolve as we must to survive. Or as a real economist,
Thomas Sowell said: "Life isn't always about fixes. Life is often about trade
offs."
Ciao!
On Tuesday, May 6, 2025 at 08:58:21 AM EDT, PGC <[email protected]>
wrote:
Zero facts and nothing but parroting the worst quality right wing feeds. Also,
still not anything on-topic for this list.
You say “technology may rob us all,” yet back a political figure whose actual
economic policies fast-track that very outcome. Under Trump, wealth
consolidation accelerated: massive tax cuts went to corporations and the
ultra-wealthy, with no structural plan for middle-class revival. Tariffs were
sold as populist rebalancing but were passed onto consumers, raising prices
while the promised return of industrial jobs never materialized in any
sustained way. If anything, his approach gutted government capacity to respond
to crises while increasing military spending—classic upward wealth transfer
disguised as populism.
Your lament about globalism and NAFTA mirrors critiques even centrists like
Krugman have admitted, but cherry-picking Krugman’s disillusionment ignores the
broader context: the devastation came not just from trade deals but from how
governments responded. Instead of reinvesting the gains into worker retraining,
infrastructure, or regional development, politicians—yes, across parties—let
financial elites capture the surplus. Trump didn’t reverse this trend; he
turbocharged it. His administration systematically weakened labor protections,
environmental regulations, and oversight of wealth concentration while
appointing Goldman Sachs alumni to key economic posts.
As for immigration and crime, the evidence doesn't support your narrative.
Violent crime rates have trended down for decades and immigrants—documented or
otherwise—commit crimes at lower rates than native-born citizens. The Census
counting noncitizens has always been part of constitutional apportionment; it’s
not a Democratic conspiracy, it’s how representative democracy functions. If
that bothers you, your problem is with the Constitution, not a political party.
The idea that NGOs are a front for DNC offspring is a conspiratorial red
herring. USAID and similar agencies, while imperfect, operate under bipartisan
oversight and fund a wide range of global programs including health
initiatives, disaster relief, and democratic development. If $4.7 trillion is
“untraceable,” that’s not a documented fact but an inflated, context-free
talking point—often spread through misreadings of budget line items over
decades. If you cheer cuts to USAID and global aid efforts, understand what
you're applauding: more children without clean water, more mothers unable to
access medicine, more communities left to starve after floods and droughts.
These aren't abstract numbers—they're kids going blind from vitamin deficiency,
infants dying from preventable diarrhea, entire generations locked into cycles
of poverty and illness. That’s the real-world impact of defunding humanitarian
infrastructure. It’s what Pope Francis tried to warn against: a world where
cruelty is excused as efficiency, and solidarity dismissed as weakness.
Supporting leaders who gut aid while boosting military budgets and shielding
billionaires isn't anti-elitist—it's just punishing the poor for being born on
the wrong side of a border. The suffering is real. And if we fund bombs but not
bread, history will remember who made that choice. And if you cannot see this,
then it's you and people like you who don't have genuine faith in their
god/religion while bashing godless progressives.
Ironically, you propose AI governance as a “fix” to the oligarchy, even as you
fear it being controlled by billionaires. That contradiction captures the core
issue: rage against elites without a coherent solution. Trump isn’t the enemy
of oligarchy—he’s its current mascot. His policies, his instincts, his allies
all serve the concentration of power and wealth. The middle class is a talking
point, not a beneficiary.
If you're serious about solutions, start by demanding transparency, fairness in
taxation, real infrastructure investment, labor empowerment, and a democratic
system where both parties are accountable to the public, not just donors. On
this, everybody agrees. No matter party lines. But that means rejecting empty
populism and looking closely at results—not just slogans and flattering feeds;
to go around and pretend you know something beyond your opinion. If you can't
take part in the science orientation of the list without re-posting woke work,
stick to facts that are verifiable from multiple perspectives instead of
blindly following the algorithm and a "leader", whose actions lead to increased
deaths of children etc. for his bottom line. Also wonder: where is Ukrainian
peace and all the affordability with money falling from the sky. Let us know,
when tariffs materialize that for you and you can buy yourself a dinner with
Jesus through meme coin purchase.
On Tuesday, May 6, 2025 at 2:31:31 PM UTC+2 [email protected] wrote:
Technology may rob us all if the super rich can profit off each other alone,
and ignore the useless eaters of the middle class and poor? Like the scifi film
2013 Elysium. That is a discussion beyond the capabilities of this wee forum,
say I. Globalism and NAFTA its a failure. for the middle class. Even NYT
economist and agiotprop Paul Krugman, declared it so a couple of years back.
Plus, the wonder-world promised by money men, Soros and his brother Klaus
Schwab never came about. Their anti-nationalist ideology paid nothing out, like
a bad slot machine that never pays. The UN for war-a failure. The WEF/EU? A sad
experiemnt that looks like it was a means to crush the locals, by importing
their own voters and enforcers.
The Democrats did this with the open border policiy. 11.5 million illegals in,
to be counted in the US Census as residents to apportion the Dems more
congressional seats. Globally for immigration and street crime? A very bady
move, again playing immigrants directly against nationalist-leaning locals,
purposefully.
In the US the amount of cash gone to NGO's, a wholly -owned subsidiary of the
D-party's leaders and their offspring, mean't to appear virtuous, has caused
4.7 trillion dollars in over 12 years become untraceable. Much of this went to
USAID, which JC has lamented its closure.
I say we can all do better. What's the fixes? Well, politically, I do have to
say (being a nutter) that AI governance is worth looking at.Yes, he he owns the
companies, would then rule the serfs via AI. But its a way potentially of
breaking oligarchs. In any case, reducing the immigration of hostiles is a
start. Deportation of hostiles is something I support. Having US taxpayers
invest a tiny portion of their income to the markets, has made US
Congressional politicians quite wealthy. So if it works for Nancy Pelosi, and
it does, , why not for the rest of us? Let us copy their corrupt method to
ensure a R.O.I.? R&D with directed goals, say on energy and medicine is
another factor. Space, yes, energy and minerals in abundance. Blank checks, say
with fusion for 70 years seems unproductive. I'm still waiting pervoskite solar
cells too.
That's my laundry list for now, The US has long not been a republic. We're an
oligarchy, a plutocracy, properly, where the very rich get their policies
enacted for their benefit, while appearing virtuous. Typically, via a single
party.
On Monday, May 5, 2025 at 12:18:32 PM EDT, PGC <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Sunday, May 4, 2025 at 10:23:07 PM UTC+2 [email protected] wrote:
Actually, yes he is bombastic, and puts that in the process with negotiations.
Sometimes it even works! At the end of the day, its not personality that we
serfs live and die upon, but rather public policies. I hold that the
Starmer-Soros-Schwab-WEF-Macon-Obama- policies have worked very, aggressively
badly. In real life, planet earth. Just as Britons tend to think differently
than yanks, Comrade Xi, Putin, and the Ayatollahs think differently than both
of us. For pragmatic reasons, I'd have sided with the previous boys IF these
were good for the middle class. Sadly they weren't.
So, for most of us, its substance over style. One can be extremely charming as
all UK PM's ever is, but either accomplish zero (not the worst option) or force
things to go sideways. For me, to quote the late, humor writer PJ O'Rourke,
"I'm an American, I want to solve problems with technology, not politics." An
imaginary example of this might be 3D printing. If we could print all we needed
via 3D printing (Or nanotech), then the disparities supposedly provided by
socialislm, would never be needed. Because, if we print all we need, cheap, who
needs a government?
All you do is quote other fringe ideas when questioned. Nothing of that
benefits or feeds people now. Irrelevant. Calling Trump “substance over style”
misses the point entirely. His style—cruelty without wit, mockery without
humor—isn’t some negotiating tactic, it’s how he consolidates power. He
silences critics, not with arguments, but with smears and jeers. That’s not
leadership, that’s bullying.
As for substance: there is no serious plan to help the middle class. Tariffs
and tax cuts are not a strategy—they're a smokescreen. Tariffs raise prices on
everyday goods, hurting working families, not billionaires. Meanwhile, tax
cuts—like those he passed in 2017—disproportionately benefit the ultra-wealthy.
Cutting government jobs and “draining the swamp” sounds tough, but it’s just a
way to slash services while funneling more money upward.
If you're in the middle class and supporting this, you'd better hope it doesn’t
work—because you're the one paying for it. There’s no plan for sustainable
jobs, no serious industrial policy, and no honest accounting of how gutting
agencies while ballooning defense spending to $1 trillion will do anything but
shift more burden onto you.
Also, because I never miss an opportunity to promote technology as useful to
us primates, I will end this convo with today's vid by physicist Sabine
Hossenfelder regarding a somewhat improved hypothesis on why black holes are
suitable for quantum computing. Older idea, new take.
Technology is useful for robbing you and is out-of-topic. But the idiot here is
yours truly, as the expectation for you to focus on one thing and discuss it,
is more ludicrous than answering where the money for those tax breaks and
military spending will come from. You want to speak physics of quantum
computers? Then do the list a favor and have a single thought of your own, an
equation, a contribution, without quoting some woke expert. Otherwise it's your
usual camo of dressing up your "posts" with woke work to fake a sophistication
and/or depth that doesn't exist. Nobody cares about our opinions, Mitch. There
are billions of us and I haven't seen you make a single point/contribution for
years on this list that fits the topic.
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