Technology may rob us all if the super rich can profit off each other alone, 
and ignore the useless eaters of the middle class and poor? Like the scifi film 
2013 Elysium. That is a discussion beyond the capabilities of this wee forum, 
say I.  Globalism and NAFTA its a failure. for the middle class. Even NYT 
economist and agiotprop Paul Krugman, declared it so a couple of years back. 
Plus, the wonder-world promised by money men, Soros and his brother Klaus 
Schwab never came about. Their anti-nationalist ideology paid nothing out, like 
a bad slot machine that never pays. The UN for war-a failure. The WEF/EU? A sad 
experiemnt that looks like it was a means to crush the locals, by importing 
their own voters and enforcers. 
The Democrats did this with the open border policiy. 11.5 million illegals in, 
to be counted in the US Census as residents to apportion the Dems more 
congressional seats. Globally for immigration and street crime? A very bady 
move, again playing immigrants directly against nationalist-leaning locals, 
purposefully. 
In the US the amount of cash gone to NGO's, a wholly -owned subsidiary of the 
D-party's leaders and their offspring, mean't to appear virtuous, has caused 
4.7 trillion dollars in over 12 years become untraceable. Much of this went to 
USAID, which JC has lamented its closure. 
I say we can all do better. What's the fixes? Well, politically, I do have to 
say (being a nutter) that AI governance is worth looking at.Yes, he he owns the 
companies, would then rule the serfs via AI. But its a way potentially of 
breaking oligarchs. In any case, reducing the immigration of hostiles is a 
start. Deportation of hostiles is something I support. Having US taxpayers 
invest a tiny portion of their income to the markets,  has made US 
Congressional politicians quite wealthy. So if it works for Nancy Pelosi, and 
it does, , why not for the rest of us? Let us copy their corrupt method to 
ensure a R.O.I.?  R&D with directed goals, say on energy and medicine is 
another factor. Space, yes, energy and minerals in abundance. Blank checks, say 
with fusion for 70 years seems unproductive. I'm still waiting pervoskite solar 
cells too. 
That's my laundry list for now, The US has long not been a republic. We're an 
oligarchy, a plutocracy, properly, where the very rich get their policies 
enacted for their benefit, while appearing virtuous. Typically, via a single 
party. 


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On Sunday, May 4, 2025 at 10:23:07 PM UTC+2 [email protected] wrote:

 Actually, yes he is bombastic, and puts that in the process with negotiations. 
Sometimes it even works! At the end of the day, its not personality that we 
serfs live and die upon, but rather public policies. I hold that the 
Starmer-Soros-Schwab-WEF-Macon-Obama- policies have worked very, aggressively 
badly. In real life, planet earth. Just as Britons tend to think differently 
than yanks, Comrade Xi, Putin, and the Ayatollahs think differently than both 
of us. For pragmatic reasons, I'd have sided with the previous boys IF these 
were good for the middle class. Sadly they weren't. 
So, for most of us, its substance over style. One can be extremely charming as 
all UK PM's ever is, but either accomplish zero (not the worst option) or force 
things to go sideways. For me, to quote the late, humor writer PJ O'Rourke, 
"I'm an American, I want to solve problems with technology, not politics." An 
imaginary example of this might be 3D printing. If we could print all we needed 
via 3D printing (Or nanotech), then the disparities supposedly provided by 
socialislm, would never be needed. Because, if we print all we need, cheap, who 
needs a government?

All you do is quote other fringe ideas when questioned. Nothing of that 
benefits or feeds people now. Irrelevant. Calling Trump “substance over style” 
misses the point entirely. His style—cruelty without wit, mockery without 
humor—isn’t some negotiating tactic, it’s how he consolidates power. He 
silences critics, not with arguments, but with smears and jeers. That’s not 
leadership, that’s bullying.
As for substance: there is no serious plan to help the middle class. Tariffs 
and tax cuts are not a strategy—they're a smokescreen. Tariffs raise prices on 
everyday goods, hurting working families, not billionaires. Meanwhile, tax 
cuts—like those he passed in 2017—disproportionately benefit the ultra-wealthy. 
Cutting government jobs and “draining the swamp” sounds tough, but it’s just a 
way to slash services while funneling more money upward.

If you're in the middle class and supporting this, you'd better hope it doesn’t 
work—because you're the one paying for it. There’s no plan for sustainable 
jobs, no serious industrial policy, and no honest accounting of how gutting 
agencies while ballooning defense spending to $1 trillion will do anything but 
shift more burden onto you. 
 Also, because I never miss an opportunity to promote technology as useful to 
us primates, I will end this convo with today's vid by physicist Sabine 
Hossenfelder regarding a somewhat improved hypothesis on why black holes are 
suitable for quantum computing. Older idea, new take. 

Technology is useful for robbing you and is out-of-topic. But the idiot here is 
yours truly, as the expectation for you to focus on one thing and discuss it, 
is more ludicrous than answering where the money for those tax breaks and 
military spending will come from. You want to speak physics of quantum 
computers? Then do the list a favor and have a single thought of your own, an 
equation, a contribution, without quoting some woke expert. Otherwise it's your 
usual camo of dressing up your "posts" with woke work to fake a sophistication 
and/or depth that doesn't exist. Nobody cares about our opinions, Mitch. There 
are billions of us and I haven't seen you make a single point/contribution for 
years on this list that fits the topic. 
 

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