Yes, the Mirai is a real vehicle and is fueled with hydrogen. But you
need to fill it's tank (cylinders of compressed H2) with hydrogen, which
has to be produced somehow. Not only that, the H2 has to be highly
compressed, which takes substantial additional energy.
On your earlier point: is hydrogen a fuel or energy storage ? That
depends on how you define those terms. If you wish to push this topic
further, I suggest you start by providing working definitions.
Peri
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From: "63urban via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org>
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Cc: "63urban" <63ur...@gmail.com>; "EV List Lackey" <evp...@drmm.net>
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] OFF TOPIC Re: EV's not a green success.
https://www.toyota.ca/toyota/en/vehicles/mirai/overviewSupposed to be available
in 2024 I thought this is just the link to their hydrogen car but I can't find
the one I read last week which went into the onboard hydrogen generation at the
moment.NickSent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada's largest network.
-------- Original message --------From: EV List Lackey via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> Date: 2023-11-07 2:29
p.m. (GMT-05:00) To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> Cc: EV List Lackey
<evp...@drmm.net> Subject: Re: [EVDL] OFF TOPIC Re: EV's not a green success. On 6 Nov 2023 at 19:00,
63urban via EV wrote:> Has anyone actually looked at the approach Toyota is taking with> hydrogen. I don't
know that Toyota is all that credible on EVs, or anything related. It seems as if they're always talking about
the EVs that they'll offer in 5 years. They just aren't a significant EV presence. Last year in Europe they
sold fewer than 6,000 EVs. That's 98.3% fewer than the EU EV leader, Volkswagen Group (over 349,000 EVs sold).
> They have taken their proven hybrid platform and introduced a hydrogen> component that takes on-board
water and produces the hydrogen at a rate> required to fuel an ice.So the only infrastructure required is
water. That kind of sounds like a Toyota news
release or advertisement. In fact it reminds me about as much of the investor-trolling backyard "free energy" true believers.From your description, it almost seems as if Toyota is saying they can buld a miracle car that runs on water. It reminds me of David Mamet's radio play "The Water Engine." That was pure fantasy, and I suspect that this is too.Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places, but I couldn't find any information on this alleged breakthrough. Can you cite a credible source? David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackeyTo reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = These are horrible times to be a science-fiction writer. All the dystopian scenarios you can dream up become real before you've even finished the first draft. -- Anonymous= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
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