https://www.toyota.ca/toyota/en/vehicles/mirai/overviewSupposed to be available 
in 2024 I thought this is just the link to their hydrogen car but I can't find 
the one I read last week which went into the onboard hydrogen generation at the 
moment.NickSent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada's largest network.
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<ev@lists.evdl.org> Date: 2023-11-07  2:29 p.m.  (GMT-05:00) To: Electric 
Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> Cc: EV List Lackey 
<evp...@drmm.net> Subject: Re: [EVDL] OFF TOPIC Re: EV's not a green success. 
On 6 Nov 2023 at 19:00, 63urban via EV wrote:> Has anyone actually looked at 
the approach Toyota is taking with> hydrogen. I don't know that Toyota is all 
that credible on EVs, or anything related. It seems as if they're always 
talking about the EVs that they'll offer in 5 years.  They just aren't a 
significant EV presence.  Last year in Europe they sold fewer than 6,000 EVs.  
That's 98.3% fewer than the EU EV leader, Volkswagen Group (over 349,000 EVs 
sold).  > They have taken their proven hybrid platform and introduced a 
hydrogen> component that takes on-board water and produces the hydrogen at a 
rate> required to fuel an ice.So the only infrastructure required is water. 
That kind of sounds like a Toyota news release or advertisement.  In fact it 
reminds me about as much of the investor-trolling backyard "free energy" true 
believers.From your description, it almost seems as if Toyota is saying they 
can buld a miracle car that runs on water.  It reminds me of David Mamet's 
radio play "The Water Engine."  That was pure fantasy, and I suspect that this 
is too.Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places, but I couldn't find any 
information on this alleged breakthrough.  Can you cite a credible source?  
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