Hi Jesse,
Welcome to the group. You're perspective is welcome. But one thing I'm sick
of hearing and have to disagree with is the Flash is dead argument. If it's
in use it's not dead. It's used by over 2 billion people and used regularly
to create mobile AIR apps. The browser can't compete yet and there are
still many shortcomings. Here is my response on Quora,
https://www.quora.com/Adobe-Flash/How-did-Flash-die-so-quickly/answer/Judah-Frangipane.


The whole argument that plugins are bad is absurd. That's saying software
that works with other software is bad. Plugins are one of the best
advancements we have made in computer science. Being able to add plugins to
Ableton, Fruity Loops, ProTools, Photoshop, Illustrator and so on has
vastly increased the capabilities and services that original software had
to offer. Plugins have INCREASED the value of the original software. And
browsers (gasp!) are also software that allow plugins.

Without Flash and other plugins we wouldn't have had progressive and
streaming video or premium content available in the browser. We wouldn't
have chat, microphone or video camera apps in the browser. We wouldn't have
had animation, right to left text and international text layout. We
wouldn't have hundreds of thousands of games or game developers or app
developers who got started with AS3 and Flash and other plugins. And one of
the best advantages plugins have over the host software is that they can be
enabled or disabled! You have choice with a plugin where with the original
software you can't disable something that may be resource intensive.
Without plugins we'd have apps for every single site that required features
the browser didn't supply or nothing at all.

Flash and AIR have been improving and growing as a technology for the last
10+ years. It's mind blowing that it's reaching it's stride and becoming
one of the best platforms to develop and people are saying to throw it out.
What we need to do is get Adobe to invest more back into it (rather than
doing the least amount without causing a revolt) or spin it off to it's own
company. That and reduce all the misinformation out there about plugins.



On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Jesse Nicholson <ascensionsyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I forgot to mention something that I think is worth mentioning with regard
> to the debate of "can pure JS/HTML do what the flash runtime can." To
> answer that, just look at Mozilla Shumway, a full blown AVM2 virtual
> machine written in pure JS. Too bad it didn't have some kind of AOT
> functionality.:)
>
> https://github.com/mozilla/shumway
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Jesse Nicholson <
> ascensionsyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Like I said I'm new here, I respect everyone, I don't mean to be the
> > armchair expert at flex and the apache-flex community. But, perhaps part
> of
> > the issues faced here is a lack of a clear goal for the future and a lack
> > of a clear, independent identity, as a product and a team.
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Jesse Nicholson
>

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