There are lots of advantages to Flex beyond Flash, and FlexJS is leveraging those advantages.
FWIW, here’s my perspective from a while back, but it’s still relevant. http://printui.com/blog/2013/01/flex-flash/ Harbs On Dec 10, 2014, at 12:43 AM, Gary Yang <flashflex...@gmail.com> wrote: > Face the reality, the majority will mark their resume HTML5 developer after > Apple said No Flash on Ipad, even they do not know what it means. > > the way I see it, Flex should fight with its advantages which is Flash > Platform. there are too many javascript frameworks already. > > You can say Javascript/html can do what flash/flex can do, well, it is true > when you have several hundreds or thousands lines of code, but it is not as > simple as "can do", especially when you have millions of code. > > I don't understand why Flex have to do everything with everything, I would > just do the right thing with the right thing. > > > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Jesse Nicholson <ascensionsyst...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> @Jude, tbh I skimmed over half of your post. I didn't say plugins are bad, >> at all, ever. Did you click the links I posted here? Did you see a full >> blown actionscript virtual machine in pure JS that emulates everything >> flash does in the browser? I'm not really sure there is anything more to >> say after that. Just because there are 2 billion installations (if that >> number is real) of flash, that really doesn't mean anything. There are >> probably 100 billion installations of microsoft solitaire on windows >> computers, that does not equal 100 billion people playing solitaire. >> >> At its height, Adobe estimated the flash developer community to be around 2 >> million people. When I job search, I can find about 1-2 flash developer >> jobs in all of Ontario (where I live). 5 years ago, there were pages upon >> pages. With all due respect, fighting the future is what killed flash in >> the first place. If we bring that mentality to flex, it'll die with it. I >> don't want to see that happen. My comments are not to inflame or offend >> anyone. >> >> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:18 PM, jude <flexcapaci...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Jesse, >>> Welcome to the group. You're perspective is welcome. But one thing I'm >> sick >>> of hearing and have to disagree with is the Flash is dead argument. If >> it's >>> in use it's not dead. It's used by over 2 billion people and used >> regularly >>> to create mobile AIR apps. The browser can't compete yet and there are >>> still many shortcomings. Here is my response on Quora, >>> >>> >> https://www.quora.com/Adobe-Flash/How-did-Flash-die-so-quickly/answer/Judah-Frangipane >>> . >>> >>> >>> The whole argument that plugins are bad is absurd. That's saying software >>> that works with other software is bad. Plugins are one of the best >>> advancements we have made in computer science. Being able to add plugins >> to >>> Ableton, Fruity Loops, ProTools, Photoshop, Illustrator and so on has >>> vastly increased the capabilities and services that original software had >>> to offer. Plugins have INCREASED the value of the original software. And >>> browsers (gasp!) are also software that allow plugins. >>> >>> Without Flash and other plugins we wouldn't have had progressive and >>> streaming video or premium content available in the browser. We wouldn't >>> have chat, microphone or video camera apps in the browser. We wouldn't >> have >>> had animation, right to left text and international text layout. We >>> wouldn't have hundreds of thousands of games or game developers or app >>> developers who got started with AS3 and Flash and other plugins. And one >> of >>> the best advantages plugins have over the host software is that they can >> be >>> enabled or disabled! You have choice with a plugin where with the >> original >>> software you can't disable something that may be resource intensive. >>> Without plugins we'd have apps for every single site that required >> features >>> the browser didn't supply or nothing at all. >>> >>> Flash and AIR have been improving and growing as a technology for the >> last >>> 10+ years. It's mind blowing that it's reaching it's stride and becoming >>> one of the best platforms to develop and people are saying to throw it >> out. >>> What we need to do is get Adobe to invest more back into it (rather than >>> doing the least amount without causing a revolt) or spin it off to it's >> own >>> company. That and reduce all the misinformation out there about plugins. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Jesse Nicholson < >>> ascensionsyst...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I forgot to mention something that I think is worth mentioning with >>> regard >>>> to the debate of "can pure JS/HTML do what the flash runtime can." To >>>> answer that, just look at Mozilla Shumway, a full blown AVM2 virtual >>>> machine written in pure JS. Too bad it didn't have some kind of AOT >>>> functionality.:) >>>> >>>> https://github.com/mozilla/shumway >>>> >>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Jesse Nicholson < >>>> ascensionsyst...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Like I said I'm new here, I respect everyone, I don't mean to be the >>>>> armchair expert at flex and the apache-flex community. But, perhaps >>> part >>>> of >>>>> the issues faced here is a lack of a clear goal for the future and a >>> lack >>>>> of a clear, independent identity, as a product and a team. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Jesse Nicholson >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Jesse Nicholson >>
