I agree totally, my point was that while there is nothing technically stopping us going for w2k3 there is little reason to do so.
Regards Alex Hitchins D: +44 1892 523 587 | S: +44 2036 030 540 | M: +44 7788 423 969 alex.hitch...@shapeblue.com -----Original Message----- From: David Nalley [mailto:da...@gnsa.us] Sent: 20 February 2014 13:24 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS There's a difference in incidentally working and validated to work on. I'd limit focus to making sure it works on 2k12r2. --David On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 6:37 AM, Alex Hitchins <alex.hitch...@shapeblue.com> wrote: > I can't think of anything that wouldn't be possible on W2k3 - that said It's > old and I can't see people having a need for it. > > > Regards > > Alex Hitchins > > D: +44 1892 523 587 | S: +44 2036 030 540 | M: +44 7788 423 969 > > alex.hitch...@shapeblue.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Angus [mailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.com] > Sent: 20 February 2014 11:17 > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS > > Isn't the hyper-v support dependant on using 2012r2 ? > > So I don't know if I'd bother with going back as far as 2003 > > Regards, > > Paul Angus > Cloud Architect > S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: @CloudyAngus > paul.an...@shapeblue.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rajesh Battala [mailto:rajesh.batt...@citrix.com] > Sent: 20 February 2014 11:13 > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS > > AFAIK, it would be windows server 2k3, 2k8 2012, 2012R2. > > Thanks > Rajesh Battala > > -----Original Message----- > From: Damoder Reddy [mailto:damoder.re...@citrix.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 4:32 PM > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS > > One question I have is, Which version of windows we need to target? > > Thanks & Regards > Damodar/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Damoder Reddy [mailto:damoder.re...@citrix.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 2:04 PM > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS > > I have tried to put all together in FS at > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Cloudstack+Windowsfication > as Feedback section and added my comments there. > > Please verify once and let me know if anything is to be added there. > > Thanks & Regards > Damodar/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Damoder Reddy [mailto:damoder.re...@citrix.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 12:32 PM > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS > > Thank you all for your inputs. > > I will aggregate all these things into FS as appendix and will put comments > there instead of replying here one by one. Once I am done with update in FS I > will notify so that we can verify whether we are covering all or not. > > Thanks & Regards > Damodar/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: abhisek basu [mailto:abhisekb...@msn.com] > Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 9:16 AM > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Cc: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS > > Getting a Windows version will expand ACS reach to a large no of > audience and make it more OS independent from its core. As far as the > tools are concern, I am sure it's achievable, we have the most > enthusiastic community contributors behind :) > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 16 Feb 2014, at 1:08 am, "Alex Hitchins" <alex.hitch...@shapeblue.com> >> wrote: >> >> I would guess that Windows has tools for managing a large number of Hyper-V >> hosts? I wonder what ACS would add to that. >> >> I still think it would be a very achievable goal and worth doing. >> >> >> Regards >> >> Alex Hitchins >> >> D: +44 1892 523 587 | S: +44 2036 030 540 | M: +44 7788 423 969 >> >> alex.hitch...@shapeblue.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Paul Angus [mailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.com] >> Sent: 15 February 2014 18:49 >> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org >> Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS >> >> My view is that anyone who wants to use Hyper-V is very unlikely to want to >> have Linux based management servers lurking around, because I think they'll >> be pretty wedded to Microsoft to want Hyper-V as the hypervisor. So being >> able to deploy windows based management servers seems essential to the use >> of Hyper-V (for better or worse). >> >> I think also there are probably a lot of Windows based Enterprises who also >> wouldn't like to a couple of stray Linux boxes running the show. I guess >> Microsoft think there is a market for Windows based private clouds or they >> wouldn't have created the Behemoth that is the Azure Pack. >> >> ...and Apache Tomcat have managed to create a windows port - so how >> hard can it be? [tic] >> >> Regards >> >> Paul Angus >> Cloud Architect >> S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: CloudyAngus >> paul.an...@shapeblue.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: David Nalley [mailto:da...@gnsa.us] >> Sent: 15 February 2014 18:29 >> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org >> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS >> >>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Alex Huang <alex.hu...@citrix.com> wrote: >>> I see this as that CS management server should run anywhere java runs. >>> However, I see quite a few holes in this proposal. >>> >>> - Management server should never have mounted the NFS secondary storage. >>> We need to fix that. Please have a talk with Kelven about this. I don't >>> see us adding Samba to any machine that runs the management server. If >>> this is just about seeding the system template, it can be done as part of >>> installation rather than management server. >>> - If I truly think about Windowsification, I think windows installer, >>> windows service, opening ports in windows firewall. I don't see any of >>> that here. Or else it's useless for windows people. >>> - For java, most people write a windows service that launches the >>> jvm and keeps track of the jvm. >>> - There's a number of things that CloudStack management server does today >>> at startup that should not be there and those are what complicates the >>> windowfication. These things should be moved out of the management server >>> and into installation. What should be inside the management server startup >>> procedure should be checks, rather than generations. It should check for >>> ssh key exists and the database version matches etc but it should not do >>> the following. >>> - Upgrade of the database >>> - ssh key generation >>> - iso generation. >>> >>> --Alex >> >> >> A couple of more to add to the list. >> There isn't really a good binary software dependency resolution >> framework for Windows (at least not that I am aware of) and you >> potentially need lots of different things - mysql libraries, python, >> ipmitool, or another shell to execute shell scripts. Look at the list >> of the dependencies we install in the RPMs for an idea of things that >> are missing. Is the plan to bundle those in the binaries? (If so, we >> need to be having a serious discussion around a shift of a number >> system requirements to dependencies which may or may not be >> acceptable.) With what appears to be some serious refactoring in how the >> management server works that Alex outlines and I doubt this is a short term >> goal. (e.g. 4.4 timeframe). If you are going to take on all of the >> refactoring work, please start by building tests that prove that it all >> works today and then verify the same behavior in the refactored work. >> >> --David >> Need Enterprise Grade Support for Apache CloudStack? >> Our CloudStack Infrastructure >> Support<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/> offers the >> best 24/7 SLA for CloudStack Environments. >> >> Apache CloudStack Bootcamp training courses >> >> **NEW!** CloudStack 4.2.1 >> training<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/> >> 18th-19th February 2014, Brazil. >> Classroom<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/> >> 17th-23rd March 2014, Region A. Instructor led, >> On-line<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/> >> 24th-28th March 2014, Region B. Instructor led, >> On-line<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/> >> 16th-20th June 2014, Region A. Instructor led, >> On-line<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/> >> 23rd-27th June 2014, Region B. 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