My view is that anyone who wants to use Hyper-V is very unlikely to want to have Linux based management servers lurking around, because I think they'll be pretty wedded to Microsoft to want Hyper-V as the hypervisor. So being able to deploy windows based management servers seems essential to the use of Hyper-V (for better or worse).
I think also there are probably a lot of Windows based Enterprises who also wouldn't like to a couple of stray Linux boxes running the show. I guess Microsoft think there is a market for Windows based private clouds or they wouldn't have created the Behemoth that is the Azure Pack. ...and Apache Tomcat have managed to create a windows port - so how hard can it be? [tic] Regards Paul Angus Cloud Architect S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: CloudyAngus paul.an...@shapeblue.com -----Original Message----- From: David Nalley [mailto:da...@gnsa.us] Sent: 15 February 2014 18:29 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Alex Huang <alex.hu...@citrix.com> wrote: > I see this as that CS management server should run anywhere java runs. > However, I see quite a few holes in this proposal. > > - Management server should never have mounted the NFS secondary storage. We > need to fix that. Please have a talk with Kelven about this. I don't see us > adding Samba to any machine that runs the management server. If this is just > about seeding the system template, it can be done as part of installation > rather than management server. > - If I truly think about Windowsification, I think windows installer, windows > service, opening ports in windows firewall. I don't see any of that here. > Or else it's useless for windows people. > - For java, most people write a windows service that launches the jvm > and keeps track of the jvm. > - There's a number of things that CloudStack management server does today at > startup that should not be there and those are what complicates the > windowfication. These things should be moved out of the management server > and into installation. What should be inside the management server startup > procedure should be checks, rather than generations. It should check for ssh > key exists and the database version matches etc but it should not do the > following. > - Upgrade of the database > - ssh key generation > - iso generation. > > --Alex A couple of more to add to the list. There isn't really a good binary software dependency resolution framework for Windows (at least not that I am aware of) and you potentially need lots of different things - mysql libraries, python, ipmitool, or another shell to execute shell scripts. Look at the list of the dependencies we install in the RPMs for an idea of things that are missing. Is the plan to bundle those in the binaries? (If so, we need to be having a serious discussion around a shift of a number system requirements to dependencies which may or may not be acceptable.) With what appears to be some serious refactoring in how the management server works that Alex outlines and I doubt this is a short term goal. (e.g. 4.4 timeframe). If you are going to take on all of the refactoring work, please start by building tests that prove that it all works today and then verify the same behavior in the refactored work. --David Need Enterprise Grade Support for Apache CloudStack? Our CloudStack Infrastructure Support<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/> offers the best 24/7 SLA for CloudStack Environments. Apache CloudStack Bootcamp training courses **NEW!** CloudStack 4.2.1 training<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/> 18th-19th February 2014, Brazil. Classroom<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/> 17th-23rd March 2014, Region A. Instructor led, On-line<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/> 24th-28th March 2014, Region B. Instructor led, On-line<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/> 16th-20th June 2014, Region A. Instructor led, On-line<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/> 23rd-27th June 2014, Region B. Instructor led, On-line<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/> This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Shape Blue Ltd or related companies. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. Shape Blue Ltd is a company incorporated in England & Wales. ShapeBlue Services India LLP is a company incorporated in India and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. Shape Blue Brasil Consultoria Ltda is a company incorporated in Brasil and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue is a registered trademark.
