Anyone, is there an open source windows installer tool ? -abhi
On 21/02/14 2:30 pm, "Donal Lafferty" <donal.laffe...@citrix.com> wrote: >I prefer the focus on support that comes with David's suggestion. >Targeting the latest stable release for a new platform greatly reduces >the number of permutations to test. > >Pursuing legacy systems limits the flexibility of ACS to evolve. For >instance, we'll probably be on Java 7 in the next while, and W2K3 doesn't >appear on the supported system list (see >https://www.java.com/en/download/help/sysreq.xml). Likewise, older >versions of Internet Explorer can be quite different than what Microsoft >has recently published. > >My guess is that the engineering effort to get ACS working on a legacy >system makes sense as a consultancy service offered independent to ACS. >That's the case of OS/2 support ;) > > >DL > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Alex Hitchins [mailto:alex.hitch...@shapeblue.com] >> Sent: 20 February 2014 14:29 >> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org >> Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS >> >> I agree totally, my point was that while there is nothing technically >>stopping >> us going for w2k3 there is little reason to do so. >> >> >> Regards >> >> Alex Hitchins >> >> D: +44 1892 523 587 | S: +44 2036 030 540 | M: +44 7788 423 969 >> >> alex.hitch...@shapeblue.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: David Nalley [mailto:da...@gnsa.us] >> Sent: 20 February 2014 13:24 >> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org >> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS >> >> There's a difference in incidentally working and validated to work on. >> I'd limit focus to making sure it works on 2k12r2. >> >> --David >> >> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 6:37 AM, Alex Hitchins >> <alex.hitch...@shapeblue.com> wrote: >> > I can't think of anything that wouldn't be possible on W2k3 - that >>said It's >> old and I can't see people having a need for it. >> > >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > Alex Hitchins >> > >> > D: +44 1892 523 587 | S: +44 2036 030 540 | M: +44 7788 423 969 >> > >> > alex.hitch...@shapeblue.com >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Paul Angus [mailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.com] >> > Sent: 20 February 2014 11:17 >> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org >> > Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS >> > >> > Isn't the hyper-v support dependant on using 2012r2 ? >> > >> > So I don't know if I'd bother with going back as far as 2003 >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Paul Angus >> > Cloud Architect >> > S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: @CloudyAngus >> > paul.an...@shapeblue.com >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Rajesh Battala [mailto:rajesh.batt...@citrix.com] >> > Sent: 20 February 2014 11:13 >> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org >> > Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS >> > >> > AFAIK, it would be windows server 2k3, 2k8 2012, 2012R2. >> > >> > Thanks >> > Rajesh Battala >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Damoder Reddy [mailto:damoder.re...@citrix.com] >> > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 4:32 PM >> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org >> > Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS >> > >> > One question I have is, Which version of windows we need to target? >> > >> > Thanks & Regards >> > Damodar/ >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Damoder Reddy [mailto:damoder.re...@citrix.com] >> > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 2:04 PM >> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org >> > Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS >> > >> > I have tried to put all together in FS at >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Cloudstack+Win >> dowsfication as Feedback section and added my comments there. >> > >> > Please verify once and let me know if anything is to be added there. >> > >> > Thanks & Regards >> > Damodar/ >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Damoder Reddy [mailto:damoder.re...@citrix.com] >> > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 12:32 PM >> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org >> > Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS >> > >> > Thank you all for your inputs. >> > >> > I will aggregate all these things into FS as appendix and will put >>comments >> there instead of replying here one by one. Once I am done with update >>in FS >> I will notify so that we can verify whether we are covering all or not. >> > >> > Thanks & Regards >> > Damodar/ >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: abhisek basu [mailto:abhisekb...@msn.com] >> > Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 9:16 AM >> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org >> > Cc: dev@cloudstack.apache.org >> > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS >> > >> > Getting a Windows version will expand ACS reach to a large no of >> > audience and make it more OS independent from its core. As far as the >> > tools are concern, I am sure it's achievable, we have the most >> > enthusiastic community contributors behind :) >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> >> On 16 Feb 2014, at 1:08 am, "Alex Hitchins" >> <alex.hitch...@shapeblue.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> I would guess that Windows has tools for managing a large number of >> Hyper-V hosts? I wonder what ACS would add to that. >> >> >> >> I still think it would be a very achievable goal and worth doing. >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Alex Hitchins >> >> >> >> D: +44 1892 523 587 | S: +44 2036 030 540 | M: +44 7788 423 969 >> >> >> >> alex.hitch...@shapeblue.com >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Paul Angus [mailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.com] >> >> Sent: 15 February 2014 18:49 >> >> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org >> >> Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS >> >> >> >> My view is that anyone who wants to use Hyper-V is very unlikely to >>want >> to have Linux based management servers lurking around, because I think >> they'll be pretty wedded to Microsoft to want Hyper-V as the >>hypervisor. So >> being able to deploy windows based management servers seems essential >> to the use of Hyper-V (for better or worse). >> >> >> >> I think also there are probably a lot of Windows based Enterprises >>who >> also wouldn't like to a couple of stray Linux boxes running the show. >>I guess >> Microsoft think there is a market for Windows based private clouds or >>they >> wouldn't have created the Behemoth that is the Azure Pack. >> >> >> >> ...and Apache Tomcat have managed to create a windows port - so how >> >> hard can it be? [tic] >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Paul Angus >> >> Cloud Architect >> >> S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: CloudyAngus >> >> paul.an...@shapeblue.com >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: David Nalley [mailto:da...@gnsa.us] >> >> Sent: 15 February 2014 18:29 >> >> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org >> >> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS >> >> >> >>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Alex Huang <alex.hu...@citrix.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I see this as that CS management server should run anywhere java >>runs. >> However, I see quite a few holes in this proposal. >> >>> >> >>> - Management server should never have mounted the NFS secondary >> storage. We need to fix that. Please have a talk with Kelven about >>this. I >> don't see us adding Samba to any machine that runs the management >> server. If this is just about seeding the system template, it can be >>done as >> part of installation rather than management server. >> >>> - If I truly think about Windowsification, I think windows >>installer, >> windows service, opening ports in windows firewall. I don't see any of >>that >> here. Or else it's useless for windows people. >> >>> - For java, most people write a windows service that >>launches the >> jvm and keeps track of the jvm. >> >>> - There's a number of things that CloudStack management server does >> today at startup that should not be there and those are what >>complicates the >> windowfication. These things should be moved out of the management >> server and into installation. What should be inside the management >>server >> startup procedure should be checks, rather than generations. It should >> check for ssh key exists and the database version matches etc but it >>should >> not do the following. >> >>> - Upgrade of the database >> >>> - ssh key generation >> >>> - iso generation. >> >>> >> >>> --Alex >> >> >> >> >> >> A couple of more to add to the list. >> >> There isn't really a good binary software dependency resolution >> >> framework for Windows (at least not that I am aware of) and you >> >> potentially need lots of different things - mysql libraries, python, >> >> ipmitool, or another shell to execute shell scripts. Look at the list >> >> of the dependencies we install in the RPMs for an idea of things that >> >> are missing. Is the plan to bundle those in the binaries? (If so, we >> >> need to be having a serious discussion around a shift of a number >> >> system requirements to dependencies which may or may not be >> >> acceptable.) With what appears to be some serious refactoring in how >>the >> management server works that Alex outlines and I doubt this is a short >>term >> goal. (e.g. 4.4 timeframe). If you are going to take on all of the >>refactoring >> work, please start by building tests that prove that it all works today >>and then >> verify the same behavior in the refactored work. >> >> >> >> --David >> >> Need Enterprise Grade Support for Apache CloudStack? >> >> Our CloudStack Infrastructure >> Support<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/> offers >> the best 24/7 SLA for CloudStack Environments. >> >> >> >> Apache CloudStack Bootcamp training courses >> >> >> >> **NEW!** CloudStack 4.2.1 >> >> training<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/> >> >> 18th-19th February 2014, Brazil. >> >> Classroom<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/> >> >> 17th-23rd March 2014, Region A. 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