There's a difference in incidentally working and validated to work on.
I'd limit focus to making sure it works on 2k12r2.

--David

On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 6:37 AM, Alex Hitchins
<alex.hitch...@shapeblue.com> wrote:
> I can't think of anything that wouldn't be possible on W2k3 - that said It's 
> old and I can't see people having a need for it.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Alex Hitchins
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Angus [mailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.com]
> Sent: 20 February 2014 11:17
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS
>
> Isn't the hyper-v support dependant on using 2012r2 ?
>
> So I don't know if I'd bother with going back as far as 2003
>
> Regards,
>
> Paul Angus
> Cloud Architect
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rajesh Battala [mailto:rajesh.batt...@citrix.com]
> Sent: 20 February 2014 11:13
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS
>
> AFAIK, it would be windows server 2k3, 2k8 2012, 2012R2.
>
> Thanks
> Rajesh Battala
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Damoder Reddy [mailto:damoder.re...@citrix.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 4:32 PM
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS
>
> One question I have is, Which version of windows we need to target?
>
> Thanks & Regards
> Damodar/
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Damoder Reddy [mailto:damoder.re...@citrix.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 2:04 PM
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS
>
> I have tried to put all together in FS at 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Cloudstack+Windowsfication
>  as Feedback section and added my comments there.
>
> Please verify once and let me know if anything is to be added there.
>
> Thanks & Regards
> Damodar/
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Damoder Reddy [mailto:damoder.re...@citrix.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 12:32 PM
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS
>
> Thank you all for your inputs.
>
>  I will aggregate all these things into FS  as appendix and will put comments 
> there instead of replying here one by one. Once I am done with update in FS I 
> will notify so that we can verify whether we are covering all or not.
>
> Thanks & Regards
> Damodar/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: abhisek basu [mailto:abhisekb...@msn.com]
> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 9:16 AM
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Cc: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS
>
> Getting a Windows version will expand ACS reach to a large no of audience and 
> make it more OS independent from its core. As far as the tools are concern, I 
> am sure it's achievable, we have the most enthusiastic community contributors 
> behind :)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 16 Feb 2014, at 1:08 am, "Alex Hitchins" <alex.hitch...@shapeblue.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I would guess that Windows has tools for managing a large number of Hyper-V 
>> hosts? I wonder what ACS would add to that.
>>
>> I still think it would be a very achievable goal and worth doing.
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Alex Hitchins
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Paul Angus [mailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.com]
>> Sent: 15 February 2014 18:49
>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS
>>
>> My view is that anyone who wants to use Hyper-V is very unlikely to want to 
>> have Linux based management servers lurking around, because I think they'll 
>> be pretty wedded to Microsoft to want Hyper-V as the hypervisor. So being 
>> able to deploy windows based management servers seems essential to the use 
>> of Hyper-V (for better or worse).
>>
>> I think also there are probably a lot of Windows based Enterprises who also 
>> wouldn't like to a couple of stray Linux boxes running the show.  I guess 
>> Microsoft think there is a market for Windows based private clouds or they 
>> wouldn't have created the Behemoth that is the Azure Pack.
>>
>> ...and Apache Tomcat have managed to create a windows port - so how
>> hard can it be? [tic]
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Paul Angus
>> Cloud Architect
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Nalley [mailto:da...@gnsa.us]
>> Sent: 15 February 2014 18:29
>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS
>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Alex Huang <alex.hu...@citrix.com> wrote:
>>> I see this as that CS management server should run anywhere java runs.  
>>> However, I see quite a few holes in this proposal.
>>>
>>> - Management server should never have mounted the NFS secondary storage.  
>>> We need to fix that.  Please have a talk with Kelven about this.  I don't 
>>> see us adding Samba to any machine that runs the management server.  If 
>>> this is just about seeding the system template, it can be done as part of 
>>> installation rather than management server.
>>> - If I truly think about Windowsification, I think windows installer, 
>>> windows service, opening ports in windows firewall.  I don't see any of 
>>> that here.  Or else it's useless for windows people.
>>>        - For java, most people write a windows service that launches the 
>>> jvm and keeps track of the jvm.
>>> - There's a number of things that CloudStack management server does today 
>>> at startup that should not be there and those are what complicates the 
>>> windowfication.   These things should be moved out of the management server 
>>> and into installation.  What should be inside the management server startup 
>>> procedure should be checks, rather than generations.  It should check for 
>>> ssh key exists and the database version matches etc but it should not do 
>>> the following.
>>>        - Upgrade of the database
>>>        - ssh key generation
>>>        - iso generation.
>>>
>>> --Alex
>>
>>
>> A couple of more to add to the list.
>> There isn't really a good binary software dependency resolution
>> framework for Windows (at least not that I am aware of) and you
>> potentially need lots of different things - mysql libraries, python,
>> ipmitool, or another shell to execute shell scripts. Look at the list
>> of the dependencies we install in the RPMs for an idea of things that
>> are missing. Is the plan to bundle those in the binaries? (If so, we
>> need to be having a serious discussion around a shift of a number
>> system requirements to dependencies which may or may not be
>> acceptable.) With what appears to be some serious refactoring in how the 
>> management server works that Alex outlines and I doubt this is a short term 
>> goal. (e.g. 4.4 timeframe). If you are going to take on all of the 
>> refactoring work, please start by building tests that prove that it all 
>> works today and then verify the same behavior in the refactored work.
>>
>> --David
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