That is good to know. My preference would be moving the driver projects and analytics first, and renaming the sidecar project later. However, if it is not a concern, I am fine with doing the change in bulk, especially if it is more convenient.
- Yifan On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 11:24 AM Jon Haddad <j...@rustyrazorblade.com> wrote: > I'm 95% sure it redirects automatically. I believe those redirects also > work when moving issues from one project to another, so when we move all > the driver issues to their own repos everything should keep working. > > > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 11:21 AM Francisco Guerrero <fran...@apache.org> > wrote: > >> This is one thing that comes to mind. >> >> All of the commits in Sidecar have a reference to the JIRA, if we switch >> it from CASSANDRASC -> CASS-SIDECAR, will there he redirection of >> these tickets? Or will be lose those links and the ability to >> automatically >> refer to the JIRAs? >> >> On 2024/10/18 18:17:16 Yifan Cai wrote: >> > Anyone know if there are any traps when renaming a JIRA project? Since >> we >> > are talking about change CASSANDRASC to CASS-SIDECAR. >> > >> > >> > - Yifan >> > >> > On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 10:50 AM Patrick McFadin <pmcfa...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > > Awesome. Now this is the bikeshedding I'm here for. :popcorn: >> > > >> > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 5:26 AM Brandon Williams <dri...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > > >> > >> I think for the sidecar we need the dash to avoid the typo-likely >> > >> 'SSS' wart. I have updated INFRA-26212 to follow CASS-DRIVER-<LANG>. >> > >> >> > >> Kind Regards, >> > >> Brandon >> > >> >> > >> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 4:55 AM Mick Semb Wever <m...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > Could we also rename CASSANDRASC to CASSSIDECAR ? >> > >> > >> > >> > And tbh, i'd much rather CASS-DRIVER-<lang>, CASS-ANALYTICS and >> > >> CASS-SIDECAR >> > >> > (but ofc it's not really important) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, 17 Oct 2024 at 23:11, Štefan Miklošovič < >> smikloso...@apache.org> >> > >> wrote: >> > >> >> >> > >> >> Interesting, adding "-ana" suffix to a dc which is meant to be an >> > >> analytical one was pretty common in cases I saw. People just want to >> look >> > >> at it and see the difference, how do they name it then? dc2? Also, >> omitting >> > >> 2 letters does not seem like a typo to me either. >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> Anyway, we are clearly after the other so CASSANALYTICS be it. >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 3:03 PM Jon Haddad < >> j...@rustyrazorblade.com> >> > >> wrote: >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> +1 to CASSANALYTICS >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> a fierce -1 to CASSANA. I’ve never once in my life seen this >> > >> convention and id prefer clarity over saving a handful of characters. >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> — >> > >> >>> Jon Haddad >> > >> >>> Rustyrazorblade Consulting >> > >> >>> rustyrazorblade.com >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 1:57 PM Štefan Miklošovič < >> > >> smikloso...@apache.org> wrote: >> > >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> CASSANA would do it. CASSANALYTICS is just too long. People are >> used >> > >> to the terminology of "ana" e.g. when naming their analytics data >> centers. >> > >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 2:55 PM Bernardo Botella < >> > >> conta...@bernardobotella.com> wrote: >> > >> >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> +1 to CASSANALYTICS >> > >> >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> On Oct 17, 2024, at 1:48 PM, Yifan Cai <yc25c...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> yep. CASSANALYTICS sounds good to me. +1 >> > >> >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 1:45 PM Francisco Guerrero < >> > >> fran...@apache.org> wrote: >> > >> >>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> > Can we include Cassandra Analytics to the infra ticket? I am >> > >> looking >> > >> >>>>>> > forward to jira project name suggestions for it... >> > >> >>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> How about CASSANALYTICS ? >> > >> >>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> On 2024/10/17 18:50:45 Yifan Cai wrote: >> > >> >>>>>> > Can we include Cassandra Analytics to the infra ticket? I am >> > >> looking >> > >> >>>>>> > forward to jira project name suggestions for it... >> > >> >>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>> > - Yifan >> > >> >>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>> > On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 10:46 AM Patrick McFadin < >> > >> pmcfa...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>> > > I think it needs a bit more blue. Maybe some pink stripes. >> > >> I'll file a >> > >> >>>>>> > > Jira. >> > >> >>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>> > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 9:01 AM Brandon Williams < >> > >> dri...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> Thanks everyone, I've created >> > >> >>>>>> > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-26212 >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >> > >> >>>>>> > >> Kind Regards, >> > >> >>>>>> > >> Brandon >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >> > >> >>>>>> > >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 9:55 AM Ekaterina Dimitrova >> > >> >>>>>> > >> <e.dimitr...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >>>>>> > >> > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> > It would have been nice to be in red italic but… :-) >> > >> >>>>>> > >> > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> > Thanks, Brandon, +1 to the suggestion on my end too. >> Sounds >> > >> reasonable >> > >> >>>>>> > >> to me >> > >> >>>>>> > >> > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> > On Thu, 17 Oct 2024 at 17:50, Abe Ratnofsky < >> a...@aber.io> >> > >> wrote: >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >> +1 to CASSDRIVER-JAVA et al. >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >> On Oct 17, 2024, at 10:37 AM, Jon Haddad < >> > >> j...@rustyrazorblade.com> >> > >> >>>>>> > >> wrote: >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >> Sgtm, let’s ship it >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >> +1 >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 4:09 AM Brandon Williams < >> > >> dri...@gmail.com> >> > >> >>>>>> > >> wrote: >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> Nobody wants to suggest a color for this bikeshed? >> I'll >> > >> start: >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> CASSDRIVER-<language>. I'd like to get on this sooner >> > >> than later since >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> during the time we wait the situation worsens. >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> Kind Regards, >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> Brandon >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 5:07 PM Brandon Williams < >> > >> dri...@gmail.com> >> > >> >>>>>> > >> wrote: >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > I think we just need to ask infra to create the >> jira >> > >> instances, but >> > >> >>>>>> > >> I >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > guess we need to have some kind of consistent >> naming >> > >> scheme to help >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > identify them? >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > Kind Regards, >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > Brandon >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 1:02 PM Francisco Guerrero < >> > >> >>>>>> > >> fran...@apache.org> wrote: >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > +1 too on the points brought by Mick, we need >> more >> > >> visibility into >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > subprojects. For starters, we should look into >> > >> integrating Qbot >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > notifications in #cassandra-dev and >> #cassandra-noise >> > >> for >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > CASSANDRASC tickets. Let me know if I can help >> with >> > >> that. >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > On 2024/10/02 17:39:28 Yifan Cai wrote: >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > +1 on all the points raised by Mick. Please >> let me >> > >> know if >> > >> >>>>>> > >> there is >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > anything I can help with. >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > - Yifan >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 8:13 AM Josh McKenzie < >> > >> >>>>>> > >> jmcken...@apache.org> wrote: >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > - Qbot notifications in #cassandra-dev and >> > >> #cassandra-noise , >> > >> >>>>>> > >> as well as >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > in any subproject channels >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > - some cadence of dev@ ML updates, e.g. on >> > >> activities, or >> > >> >>>>>> > >> dependency >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > changes, etc >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > - regular releases >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > Agree on all 3 points. Also - I've >> *definitely* >> > >> fallen off on >> > >> >>>>>> > >> the project >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > updates for mainline; I'll pick that back up >> > >> after ApacheCon. >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2024, at 1:57 AM, Mick Semb >> Wever >> > >> wrote: >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > To play devil's advocate here, it's important >> > >> that the >> > >> >>>>>> > >> subprojects don't >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > lose visibility and silo from the rest of the >> > >> project. >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > There are different ways to solve this, and >> > >> lumping >> > >> >>>>>> > >> everything into one >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > jira project is a messy and poor way of doing >> > >> it. But as the >> > >> >>>>>> > >> sidecar has >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > shown us, subproject activity should somehow >> be >> > >> made noisy to >> > >> >>>>>> > >> us. We need >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > sorts of common spaces in the project. >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > If we go the separate jira project route, >> then >> > >> some >> > >> >>>>>> > >> suggestions to help >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > with this are: >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > - Qbot notifications in #cassandra-dev and >> > >> #cassandra-noise , >> > >> >>>>>> > >> as well as >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > in any subproject channels >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > - some cadence of dev@ ML updates, e.g. on >> > >> activities, or >> > >> >>>>>> > >> dependency >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > changes, etc >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > - regular releases >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 at 04:11, Dinesh Joshi < >> > >> djo...@apache.org> >> > >> >>>>>> > >> wrote: >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > hi folks - sorry to have dropped the ball on >> > >> responding to >> > >> >>>>>> > >> this thread. >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > My 2 cents are as follows - >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > 1. Having a separate JIRA project for each >> > >> sub-project will >> > >> >>>>>> > >> add management >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > overhead. This option, however, allows us to >> > >> model unique >> > >> >>>>>> > >> workflows for the >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > sub-project. >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > 2. Managing the sub-project as part of the >> > >> Cassandra JIRA >> > >> >>>>>> > >> project would >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > imply less management overhead but the >> > >> sub-project would need >> > >> >>>>>> > >> to conform to >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > the same workflows. >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > I would pick option 1 unless there is a >> strong >> > >> reason and >> > >> >>>>>> > >> desire to manage >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > a separate Jira project. We can always split >> out >> > >> the Java >> > >> >>>>>> > >> Driver project if >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > things don't work out. OTOH merging a Jira >> > >> project is harder. >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > Thanks, >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > Dinesh >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 12:45 PM Abe >> Ratnofsky < >> > >> a...@aber.io> >> > >> >>>>>> > >> wrote: >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > CEP-8 proposes using separate Jira projects >> per >> > >> Cassandra >> > >> >>>>>> > >> sub-project: >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >> > >> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/CEP-8%3A+DataStax+Drivers+Donation >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > > We suggest distinct Jira projects, one per >> > >> driver, all to >> > >> >>>>>> > >> be created. >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > I don't see any discussion changing that >> from the >> > >> [DISCUSS] >> > >> >>>>>> > >> or vote >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > threads: >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >> > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/01pljcncyjyo467l5orh8nf9okrh7oxm >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >> > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/opt630do09phh7hlt28odztxdv6g58dp >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >> > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/crolkrhd4y6tt3k4hsy204xomshlcp4p >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > But looks like upon acceptance that was >> changed: >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >> > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/dhov01s8dvvh3882oxhkmmfv4tqdd68o >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > > New issues will be tracked under the >> CASSANDRA >> > >> project on >> > >> >>>>>> > >> Apache’s JIRA < >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/CASSANDRA> >> > >> under the >> > >> >>>>>> > >> component >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > ‘Client/java-driver’. >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > I'm in favor of using the same Jira as >> Cassandra >> > >> proper. >> > >> >>>>>> > >> Committership is >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > project-wide, so having a standardized >> process >> > >> (same ticket >> > >> >>>>>> > >> flow, review >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > rules, labels, etc. is beneficial). But >> multiple >> > >> votes >> > >> >>>>>> > >> happened based on >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > the content of the CEP, so we should stick to >> > >> what was voted >> > >> >>>>>> > >> on and move to >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > a separate Jira. >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > -- >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > Abe >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> >>>>>> > >> >> > >> >>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >
