Anyone know if there are any traps when renaming a JIRA project? Since we
are talking about change CASSANDRASC to CASS-SIDECAR.


- Yifan

On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 10:50 AM Patrick McFadin <pmcfa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Awesome. Now this is the bikeshedding I'm here for. :popcorn:
>
> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 5:26 AM Brandon Williams <dri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think for the sidecar we need the dash to avoid the typo-likely
>> 'SSS' wart. I have updated INFRA-26212 to follow CASS-DRIVER-<LANG>.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Brandon
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 4:55 AM Mick Semb Wever <m...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Could we also rename CASSANDRASC to CASSSIDECAR ?
>> >
>> > And tbh, i'd much rather CASS-DRIVER-<lang>, CASS-ANALYTICS and
>> CASS-SIDECAR
>> >  (but ofc it's not really important)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, 17 Oct 2024 at 23:11, Štefan Miklošovič <smikloso...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Interesting, adding "-ana" suffix to a dc which is meant to be an
>> analytical one was pretty common in cases I saw. People just want to look
>> at it and see the difference, how do they name it then? dc2? Also, omitting
>> 2 letters does not seem like a typo to me either.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Anyway, we are clearly after the other so CASSANALYTICS be it.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 3:03 PM Jon Haddad <j...@rustyrazorblade.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> +1 to CASSANALYTICS
>> >>>
>> >>> a fierce -1 to CASSANA. I’ve never once in my life seen this
>> convention and id prefer clarity over saving a handful of characters.
>> >>>
>> >>> —
>> >>> Jon Haddad
>> >>> Rustyrazorblade Consulting
>> >>> rustyrazorblade.com
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 1:57 PM Štefan Miklošovič <
>> smikloso...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> CASSANA would do it. CASSANALYTICS is just too long. People are used
>> to the terminology of "ana" e.g. when naming their analytics data centers.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 2:55 PM Bernardo Botella <
>> conta...@bernardobotella.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> +1 to CASSANALYTICS
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Oct 17, 2024, at 1:48 PM, Yifan Cai <yc25c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> yep. CASSANALYTICS sounds good to me. +1
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 1:45 PM Francisco Guerrero <
>> fran...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> > Can we include Cassandra Analytics to the infra ticket? I am
>> looking
>> >>>>>> > forward to jira project name suggestions for it...
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> How about CASSANALYTICS ?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 2024/10/17 18:50:45 Yifan Cai wrote:
>> >>>>>> > Can we include Cassandra Analytics to the infra ticket? I am
>> looking
>> >>>>>> > forward to jira project name suggestions for it...
>> >>>>>> >
>> >>>>>> > - Yifan
>> >>>>>> >
>> >>>>>> > On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 10:46 AM Patrick McFadin <
>> pmcfa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>> >
>> >>>>>> > > I think it needs a bit more blue. Maybe some pink stripes.
>> I'll file a
>> >>>>>> > > Jira.
>> >>>>>> > >
>> >>>>>> > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 9:01 AM Brandon Williams <
>> dri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>> > >
>> >>>>>> > >> Thanks everyone, I've created
>> >>>>>> > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-26212
>> >>>>>> > >>
>> >>>>>> > >> Kind Regards,
>> >>>>>> > >> Brandon
>> >>>>>> > >>
>> >>>>>> > >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 9:55 AM Ekaterina Dimitrova
>> >>>>>> > >> <e.dimitr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>> > >> >
>> >>>>>> > >> > It would have been nice to be in red italic but… :-)
>> >>>>>> > >> >
>> >>>>>> > >> > Thanks, Brandon, +1 to the suggestion on my end too. Sounds
>> reasonable
>> >>>>>> > >> to me
>> >>>>>> > >> >
>> >>>>>> > >> >
>> >>>>>> > >> > On Thu, 17 Oct 2024 at 17:50, Abe Ratnofsky <a...@aber.io>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>> > >> >>
>> >>>>>> > >> >> +1 to CASSDRIVER-JAVA et al.
>> >>>>>> > >> >>
>> >>>>>> > >> >> On Oct 17, 2024, at 10:37 AM, Jon Haddad <
>> j...@rustyrazorblade.com>
>> >>>>>> > >> wrote:
>> >>>>>> > >> >>
>> >>>>>> > >> >> Sgtm, let’s ship it
>> >>>>>> > >> >>
>> >>>>>> > >> >> +1
>> >>>>>> > >> >>
>> >>>>>> > >> >>
>> >>>>>> > >> >>
>> >>>>>> > >> >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 4:09 AM Brandon Williams <
>> dri...@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>> > >> wrote:
>> >>>>>> > >> >>>
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> Nobody wants to suggest a color for this bikeshed?  I'll
>> start:
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> CASSDRIVER-<language>. I'd like to get on this sooner
>> than later since
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> during the time we wait the situation worsens.
>> >>>>>> > >> >>>
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> Kind Regards,
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> Brandon
>> >>>>>> > >> >>>
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 5:07 PM Brandon Williams <
>> dri...@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>> > >> wrote:
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> >
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > I think we just need to ask infra to create the jira
>> instances, but
>> >>>>>> > >> I
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > guess we need to have some kind of consistent naming
>> scheme to help
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > identify them?
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> >
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > Kind Regards,
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > Brandon
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> >
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 1:02 PM Francisco Guerrero <
>> >>>>>> > >> fran...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > >
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > +1 too on the points brought by Mick, we need more
>> visibility into
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > subprojects. For starters, we should look into
>> integrating Qbot
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > notifications in #cassandra-dev and #cassandra-noise
>> for
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > CASSANDRASC tickets. Let me know if I can help with
>> that.
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > >
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > On 2024/10/02 17:39:28 Yifan Cai wrote:
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > +1 on all the points raised by Mick. Please let me
>> know if
>> >>>>>> > >> there is
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > anything I can help with.
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > >
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > - Yifan
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > >
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 8:13 AM Josh McKenzie <
>> >>>>>> > >> jmcken...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > >
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > - Qbot notifications in #cassandra-dev and
>> #cassandra-noise ,
>> >>>>>> > >> as well as
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > in any subproject channels
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > - some cadence of dev@ ML updates, e.g. on
>> activities, or
>> >>>>>> > >> dependency
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > changes, etc
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > - regular releases
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > Agree on all 3 points. Also - I've *definitely*
>> fallen off on
>> >>>>>> > >> the project
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > updates for mainline; I'll pick that back up
>> after ApacheCon.
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2024, at 1:57 AM, Mick Semb Wever
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > To play devil's advocate here, it's important
>> that the
>> >>>>>> > >> subprojects don't
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > lose visibility and silo from the rest of the
>> project.
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > There are different ways to solve this, and
>> lumping
>> >>>>>> > >> everything into one
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > jira project is a messy and poor way of doing
>> it.  But as the
>> >>>>>> > >> sidecar has
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > shown us, subproject activity should somehow be
>> made noisy to
>> >>>>>> > >> us.  We need
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > sorts of common spaces in the project.
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > If we go the separate jira project route, then
>> some
>> >>>>>> > >> suggestions to help
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > with this are:
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > - Qbot notifications in #cassandra-dev and
>> #cassandra-noise ,
>> >>>>>> > >> as well as
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > in any subproject channels
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > - some cadence of dev@ ML updates, e.g. on
>> activities, or
>> >>>>>> > >> dependency
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > changes, etc
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > - regular releases
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 at 04:11, Dinesh Joshi <
>> djo...@apache.org>
>> >>>>>> > >> wrote:
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > hi folks - sorry to have dropped the ball on
>> responding to
>> >>>>>> > >> this thread.
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > My 2 cents are as follows -
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > 1. Having a separate JIRA project for each
>> sub-project will
>> >>>>>> > >> add management
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > overhead. This option, however, allows us to
>> model unique
>> >>>>>> > >> workflows for the
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > sub-project.
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > 2. Managing the sub-project as part of the
>> Cassandra JIRA
>> >>>>>> > >> project would
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > imply less management overhead but the
>> sub-project would need
>> >>>>>> > >> to conform to
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > the same workflows.
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > I would pick option 1 unless there is a strong
>> reason and
>> >>>>>> > >> desire to manage
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > a separate Jira project. We can always split out
>> the Java
>> >>>>>> > >> Driver project if
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > things don't work out. OTOH merging a Jira
>> project is harder.
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > Thanks,
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > Dinesh
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 12:45 PM Abe Ratnofsky <
>> a...@aber.io>
>> >>>>>> > >> wrote:
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > CEP-8 proposes using separate Jira projects per
>> Cassandra
>> >>>>>> > >> sub-project:
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>> >>>>>> > >>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/CEP-8%3A+DataStax+Drivers+Donation
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > > We suggest distinct Jira projects, one per
>> driver, all to
>> >>>>>> > >> be created.
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > I don't see any discussion changing that from the
>> [DISCUSS]
>> >>>>>> > >> or vote
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > threads:
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>> >>>>>> > >>
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/01pljcncyjyo467l5orh8nf9okrh7oxm
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>> >>>>>> > >>
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/opt630do09phh7hlt28odztxdv6g58dp
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>> >>>>>> > >>
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/crolkrhd4y6tt3k4hsy204xomshlcp4p
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > But looks like upon acceptance that was changed:
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>> >>>>>> > >>
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/dhov01s8dvvh3882oxhkmmfv4tqdd68o
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > > New issues will be tracked under the CASSANDRA
>> project on
>> >>>>>> > >> Apache’s JIRA <
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/CASSANDRA>
>> under the
>> >>>>>> > >> component
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > ‘Client/java-driver’.
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > I'm in favor of using the same Jira as Cassandra
>> proper.
>> >>>>>> > >> Committership is
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > project-wide, so having a standardized process
>> (same ticket
>> >>>>>> > >> flow, review
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > rules, labels, etc. is beneficial). But multiple
>> votes
>> >>>>>> > >> happened based on
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > the content of the CEP, so we should stick to
>> what was voted
>> >>>>>> > >> on and move to
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > a separate Jira.
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > --
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > Abe
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > >
>> >>>>>> > >> >>
>> >>>>>> > >> >>
>> >>>>>> > >>
>> >>>>>> > >
>> >>>>>> >
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>>
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