This is one thing that comes to mind.

All of the commits in Sidecar have a reference to the JIRA, if we switch
it from CASSANDRASC -> CASS-SIDECAR, will there he redirection of
these tickets? Or will be lose those links and the ability to automatically
refer to the JIRAs?

On 2024/10/18 18:17:16 Yifan Cai wrote:
> Anyone know if there are any traps when renaming a JIRA project? Since we
> are talking about change CASSANDRASC to CASS-SIDECAR.
> 
> 
> - Yifan
> 
> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 10:50 AM Patrick McFadin <pmcfa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Awesome. Now this is the bikeshedding I'm here for. :popcorn:
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 5:26 AM Brandon Williams <dri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I think for the sidecar we need the dash to avoid the typo-likely
> >> 'SSS' wart. I have updated INFRA-26212 to follow CASS-DRIVER-<LANG>.
> >>
> >> Kind Regards,
> >> Brandon
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 4:55 AM Mick Semb Wever <m...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Could we also rename CASSANDRASC to CASSSIDECAR ?
> >> >
> >> > And tbh, i'd much rather CASS-DRIVER-<lang>, CASS-ANALYTICS and
> >> CASS-SIDECAR
> >> >  (but ofc it's not really important)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, 17 Oct 2024 at 23:11, Štefan Miklošovič <smikloso...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Interesting, adding "-ana" suffix to a dc which is meant to be an
> >> analytical one was pretty common in cases I saw. People just want to look
> >> at it and see the difference, how do they name it then? dc2? Also, omitting
> >> 2 letters does not seem like a typo to me either.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Anyway, we are clearly after the other so CASSANALYTICS be it.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 3:03 PM Jon Haddad <j...@rustyrazorblade.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> +1 to CASSANALYTICS
> >> >>>
> >> >>> a fierce -1 to CASSANA. I’ve never once in my life seen this
> >> convention and id prefer clarity over saving a handful of characters.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> —
> >> >>> Jon Haddad
> >> >>> Rustyrazorblade Consulting
> >> >>> rustyrazorblade.com
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 1:57 PM Štefan Miklošovič <
> >> smikloso...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> CASSANA would do it. CASSANALYTICS is just too long. People are used
> >> to the terminology of "ana" e.g. when naming their analytics data centers.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 2:55 PM Bernardo Botella <
> >> conta...@bernardobotella.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> +1 to CASSANALYTICS
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On Oct 17, 2024, at 1:48 PM, Yifan Cai <yc25c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> yep. CASSANALYTICS sounds good to me. +1
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 1:45 PM Francisco Guerrero <
> >> fran...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> > Can we include Cassandra Analytics to the infra ticket? I am
> >> looking
> >> >>>>>> > forward to jira project name suggestions for it...
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> How about CASSANALYTICS ?
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> On 2024/10/17 18:50:45 Yifan Cai wrote:
> >> >>>>>> > Can we include Cassandra Analytics to the infra ticket? I am
> >> looking
> >> >>>>>> > forward to jira project name suggestions for it...
> >> >>>>>> >
> >> >>>>>> > - Yifan
> >> >>>>>> >
> >> >>>>>> > On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 10:46 AM Patrick McFadin <
> >> pmcfa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> >
> >> >>>>>> > > I think it needs a bit more blue. Maybe some pink stripes.
> >> I'll file a
> >> >>>>>> > > Jira.
> >> >>>>>> > >
> >> >>>>>> > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 9:01 AM Brandon Williams <
> >> dri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> > >
> >> >>>>>> > >> Thanks everyone, I've created
> >> >>>>>> > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-26212
> >> >>>>>> > >>
> >> >>>>>> > >> Kind Regards,
> >> >>>>>> > >> Brandon
> >> >>>>>> > >>
> >> >>>>>> > >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 9:55 AM Ekaterina Dimitrova
> >> >>>>>> > >> <e.dimitr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> > >> >
> >> >>>>>> > >> > It would have been nice to be in red italic but… :-)
> >> >>>>>> > >> >
> >> >>>>>> > >> > Thanks, Brandon, +1 to the suggestion on my end too. Sounds
> >> reasonable
> >> >>>>>> > >> to me
> >> >>>>>> > >> >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >
> >> >>>>>> > >> > On Thu, 17 Oct 2024 at 17:50, Abe Ratnofsky <a...@aber.io>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>
> >> >>>>>> > >> >> +1 to CASSDRIVER-JAVA et al.
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>
> >> >>>>>> > >> >> On Oct 17, 2024, at 10:37 AM, Jon Haddad <
> >> j...@rustyrazorblade.com>
> >> >>>>>> > >> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>
> >> >>>>>> > >> >> Sgtm, let’s ship it
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>
> >> >>>>>> > >> >> +1
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>
> >> >>>>>> > >> >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 4:09 AM Brandon Williams <
> >> dri...@gmail.com>
> >> >>>>>> > >> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>>
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> Nobody wants to suggest a color for this bikeshed?  I'll
> >> start:
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> CASSDRIVER-<language>. I'd like to get on this sooner
> >> than later since
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> during the time we wait the situation worsens.
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>>
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> Kind Regards,
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> Brandon
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>>
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 5:07 PM Brandon Williams <
> >> dri...@gmail.com>
> >> >>>>>> > >> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > I think we just need to ask infra to create the jira
> >> instances, but
> >> >>>>>> > >> I
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > guess we need to have some kind of consistent naming
> >> scheme to help
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > identify them?
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > Kind Regards,
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > Brandon
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 1:02 PM Francisco Guerrero <
> >> >>>>>> > >> fran...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > +1 too on the points brought by Mick, we need more
> >> visibility into
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > subprojects. For starters, we should look into
> >> integrating Qbot
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > notifications in #cassandra-dev and #cassandra-noise
> >> for
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > CASSANDRASC tickets. Let me know if I can help with
> >> that.
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > On 2024/10/02 17:39:28 Yifan Cai wrote:
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > +1 on all the points raised by Mick. Please let me
> >> know if
> >> >>>>>> > >> there is
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > anything I can help with.
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > - Yifan
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 8:13 AM Josh McKenzie <
> >> >>>>>> > >> jmcken...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > - Qbot notifications in #cassandra-dev and
> >> #cassandra-noise ,
> >> >>>>>> > >> as well as
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > in any subproject channels
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > - some cadence of dev@ ML updates, e.g. on
> >> activities, or
> >> >>>>>> > >> dependency
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > changes, etc
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > - regular releases
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > Agree on all 3 points. Also - I've *definitely*
> >> fallen off on
> >> >>>>>> > >> the project
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > updates for mainline; I'll pick that back up
> >> after ApacheCon.
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2024, at 1:57 AM, Mick Semb Wever
> >> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > To play devil's advocate here, it's important
> >> that the
> >> >>>>>> > >> subprojects don't
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > lose visibility and silo from the rest of the
> >> project.
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > There are different ways to solve this, and
> >> lumping
> >> >>>>>> > >> everything into one
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > jira project is a messy and poor way of doing
> >> it.  But as the
> >> >>>>>> > >> sidecar has
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > shown us, subproject activity should somehow be
> >> made noisy to
> >> >>>>>> > >> us.  We need
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > sorts of common spaces in the project.
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > If we go the separate jira project route, then
> >> some
> >> >>>>>> > >> suggestions to help
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > with this are:
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > - Qbot notifications in #cassandra-dev and
> >> #cassandra-noise ,
> >> >>>>>> > >> as well as
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > in any subproject channels
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > - some cadence of dev@ ML updates, e.g. on
> >> activities, or
> >> >>>>>> > >> dependency
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > changes, etc
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > - regular releases
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 at 04:11, Dinesh Joshi <
> >> djo...@apache.org>
> >> >>>>>> > >> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > hi folks - sorry to have dropped the ball on
> >> responding to
> >> >>>>>> > >> this thread.
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > My 2 cents are as follows -
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > 1. Having a separate JIRA project for each
> >> sub-project will
> >> >>>>>> > >> add management
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > overhead. This option, however, allows us to
> >> model unique
> >> >>>>>> > >> workflows for the
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > sub-project.
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > 2. Managing the sub-project as part of the
> >> Cassandra JIRA
> >> >>>>>> > >> project would
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > imply less management overhead but the
> >> sub-project would need
> >> >>>>>> > >> to conform to
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > the same workflows.
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > I would pick option 1 unless there is a strong
> >> reason and
> >> >>>>>> > >> desire to manage
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > a separate Jira project. We can always split out
> >> the Java
> >> >>>>>> > >> Driver project if
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > things don't work out. OTOH merging a Jira
> >> project is harder.
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > Thanks,
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > Dinesh
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 12:45 PM Abe Ratnofsky <
> >> a...@aber.io>
> >> >>>>>> > >> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > CEP-8 proposes using separate Jira projects per
> >> Cassandra
> >> >>>>>> > >> sub-project:
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
> >> >>>>>> > >>
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/CEP-8%3A+DataStax+Drivers+Donation
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > > We suggest distinct Jira projects, one per
> >> driver, all to
> >> >>>>>> > >> be created.
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > I don't see any discussion changing that from the
> >> [DISCUSS]
> >> >>>>>> > >> or vote
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > threads:
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
> >> >>>>>> > >>
> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/01pljcncyjyo467l5orh8nf9okrh7oxm
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
> >> >>>>>> > >>
> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/opt630do09phh7hlt28odztxdv6g58dp
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
> >> >>>>>> > >>
> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/crolkrhd4y6tt3k4hsy204xomshlcp4p
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > But looks like upon acceptance that was changed:
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
> >> >>>>>> > >>
> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/dhov01s8dvvh3882oxhkmmfv4tqdd68o
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > > New issues will be tracked under the CASSANDRA
> >> project on
> >> >>>>>> > >> Apache’s JIRA <
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/CASSANDRA>
> >> under the
> >> >>>>>> > >> component
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > ‘Client/java-driver’.
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > I'm in favor of using the same Jira as Cassandra
> >> proper.
> >> >>>>>> > >> Committership is
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > project-wide, so having a standardized process
> >> (same ticket
> >> >>>>>> > >> flow, review
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > rules, labels, etc. is beneficial). But multiple
> >> votes
> >> >>>>>> > >> happened based on
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > the content of the CEP, so we should stick to
> >> what was voted
> >> >>>>>> > >> on and move to
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > a separate Jira.
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > --
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > Abe
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > >
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>
> >> >>>>>> > >> >>
> >> >>>>>> > >>
> >> >>>>>> > >
> >> >>>>>> >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >>
> >
> 

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