Could we also rename CASSANDRASC to CASSSIDECAR ?

And tbh, i'd much rather CASS-DRIVER-<lang>, CASS-ANALYTICS and CASS-SIDECAR
 (but ofc it's not really important)



On Thu, 17 Oct 2024 at 23:11, Štefan Miklošovič <smikloso...@apache.org>
wrote:

> Interesting, adding "-ana" suffix to a dc which is meant to be an
> analytical one was pretty common in cases I saw. People just want to look
> at it and see the difference, how do they name it then? dc2? Also, omitting
> 2 letters does not seem like a typo to me either.
>
>
> Anyway, we are clearly after the other so CASSANALYTICS be it.
>
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 3:03 PM Jon Haddad <j...@rustyrazorblade.com>
> wrote:
>
>> +1 to CASSANALYTICS
>>
>> a fierce -1 to CASSANA. I’ve never once in my life seen this convention
>> and id prefer clarity over saving a handful of characters.
>>
>> —
>> Jon Haddad
>> Rustyrazorblade Consulting
>> rustyrazorblade.com
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 1:57 PM Štefan Miklošovič <smikloso...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> CASSANA would do it. CASSANALYTICS is just too long. People are used to
>>> the terminology of "ana" e.g. when naming their analytics data centers.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 2:55 PM Bernardo Botella <
>>> conta...@bernardobotella.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 to CASSANALYTICS
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 17, 2024, at 1:48 PM, Yifan Cai <yc25c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> yep. CASSANALYTICS sounds good to me. +1
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 1:45 PM Francisco Guerrero <fran...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> > Can we include Cassandra Analytics to the infra ticket? I am looking
>>>>> > forward to jira project name suggestions for it...
>>>>>
>>>>> How about CASSANALYTICS ?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2024/10/17 18:50:45 Yifan Cai wrote:
>>>>> > Can we include Cassandra Analytics to the infra ticket? I am looking
>>>>> > forward to jira project name suggestions for it...
>>>>> >
>>>>> > - Yifan
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 10:46 AM Patrick McFadin <pmcfa...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > I think it needs a bit more blue. Maybe some pink stripes. I'll
>>>>> file a
>>>>> > > Jira.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 9:01 AM Brandon Williams <dri...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >> Thanks everyone, I've created
>>>>> > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-26212
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Kind Regards,
>>>>> > >> Brandon
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 9:55 AM Ekaterina Dimitrova
>>>>> > >> <e.dimitr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> > It would have been nice to be in red italic but… :-)
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> > Thanks, Brandon, +1 to the suggestion on my end too. Sounds
>>>>> reasonable
>>>>> > >> to me
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> > On Thu, 17 Oct 2024 at 17:50, Abe Ratnofsky <a...@aber.io>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>> > >> >> +1 to CASSDRIVER-JAVA et al.
>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>> > >> >> On Oct 17, 2024, at 10:37 AM, Jon Haddad <
>>>>> j...@rustyrazorblade.com>
>>>>> > >> wrote:
>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>> > >> >> Sgtm, let’s ship it
>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>> > >> >> +1
>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>> > >> >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 4:09 AM Brandon Williams <
>>>>> dri...@gmail.com>
>>>>> > >> wrote:
>>>>> > >> >>>
>>>>> > >> >>> Nobody wants to suggest a color for this bikeshed?  I'll
>>>>> start:
>>>>> > >> >>> CASSDRIVER-<language>. I'd like to get on this sooner than
>>>>> later since
>>>>> > >> >>> during the time we wait the situation worsens.
>>>>> > >> >>>
>>>>> > >> >>> Kind Regards,
>>>>> > >> >>> Brandon
>>>>> > >> >>>
>>>>> > >> >>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 5:07 PM Brandon Williams <
>>>>> dri...@gmail.com>
>>>>> > >> wrote:
>>>>> > >> >>> >
>>>>> > >> >>> > I think we just need to ask infra to create the jira
>>>>> instances, but
>>>>> > >> I
>>>>> > >> >>> > guess we need to have some kind of consistent naming scheme
>>>>> to help
>>>>> > >> >>> > identify them?
>>>>> > >> >>> >
>>>>> > >> >>> > Kind Regards,
>>>>> > >> >>> > Brandon
>>>>> > >> >>> >
>>>>> > >> >>> > On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 1:02 PM Francisco Guerrero <
>>>>> > >> fran...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> > >> >>> > >
>>>>> > >> >>> > > +1 too on the points brought by Mick, we need more
>>>>> visibility into
>>>>> > >> >>> > > subprojects. For starters, we should look into
>>>>> integrating Qbot
>>>>> > >> >>> > > notifications in #cassandra-dev and #cassandra-noise for
>>>>> > >> >>> > > CASSANDRASC tickets. Let me know if I can help with that.
>>>>> > >> >>> > >
>>>>> > >> >>> > > On 2024/10/02 17:39:28 Yifan Cai wrote:
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > +1 on all the points raised by Mick. Please let me know
>>>>> if
>>>>> > >> there is
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > anything I can help with.
>>>>> > >> >>> > > >
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > - Yifan
>>>>> > >> >>> > > >
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 8:13 AM Josh McKenzie <
>>>>> > >> jmcken...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> > >> >>> > > >
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > - Qbot notifications in #cassandra-dev and
>>>>> #cassandra-noise ,
>>>>> > >> as well as
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > in any subproject channels
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > - some cadence of dev@ ML updates, e.g. on
>>>>> activities, or
>>>>> > >> dependency
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > changes, etc
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > - regular releases
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > Agree on all 3 points. Also - I've *definitely*
>>>>> fallen off on
>>>>> > >> the project
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > updates for mainline; I'll pick that back up after
>>>>> ApacheCon.
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2024, at 1:57 AM, Mick Semb Wever
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > To play devil's advocate here, it's important that the
>>>>> > >> subprojects don't
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > lose visibility and silo from the rest of the project.
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > There are different ways to solve this, and lumping
>>>>> > >> everything into one
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > jira project is a messy and poor way of doing it.
>>>>> But as the
>>>>> > >> sidecar has
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > shown us, subproject activity should somehow be made
>>>>> noisy to
>>>>> > >> us.  We need
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > sorts of common spaces in the project.
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > If we go the separate jira project route, then some
>>>>> > >> suggestions to help
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > with this are:
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > - Qbot notifications in #cassandra-dev and
>>>>> #cassandra-noise ,
>>>>> > >> as well as
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > in any subproject channels
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > - some cadence of dev@ ML updates, e.g. on
>>>>> activities, or
>>>>> > >> dependency
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > changes, etc
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > - regular releases
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 at 04:11, Dinesh Joshi <
>>>>> djo...@apache.org>
>>>>> > >> wrote:
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > hi folks - sorry to have dropped the ball on
>>>>> responding to
>>>>> > >> this thread.
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > My 2 cents are as follows -
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > 1. Having a separate JIRA project for each
>>>>> sub-project will
>>>>> > >> add management
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > overhead. This option, however, allows us to model
>>>>> unique
>>>>> > >> workflows for the
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > sub-project.
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > 2. Managing the sub-project as part of the Cassandra
>>>>> JIRA
>>>>> > >> project would
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > imply less management overhead but the sub-project
>>>>> would need
>>>>> > >> to conform to
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > the same workflows.
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > I would pick option 1 unless there is a strong reason
>>>>> and
>>>>> > >> desire to manage
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > a separate Jira project. We can always split out the
>>>>> Java
>>>>> > >> Driver project if
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > things don't work out. OTOH merging a Jira project is
>>>>> harder.
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > Thanks,
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > Dinesh
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 12:45 PM Abe Ratnofsky <
>>>>> a...@aber.io>
>>>>> > >> wrote:
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > CEP-8 proposes using separate Jira projects per
>>>>> Cassandra
>>>>> > >> sub-project:
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/CEP-8%3A+DataStax+Drivers+Donation
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > > We suggest distinct Jira projects, one per driver,
>>>>> all to
>>>>> > >> be created.
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > I don't see any discussion changing that from the
>>>>> [DISCUSS]
>>>>> > >> or vote
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > threads:
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>>>>> > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/01pljcncyjyo467l5orh8nf9okrh7oxm
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>>>>> > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/opt630do09phh7hlt28odztxdv6g58dp
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>>>>> > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/crolkrhd4y6tt3k4hsy204xomshlcp4p
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > But looks like upon acceptance that was changed:
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>>>>> > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/dhov01s8dvvh3882oxhkmmfv4tqdd68o
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > > New issues will be tracked under the CASSANDRA
>>>>> project on
>>>>> > >> Apache’s JIRA <
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/CASSANDRA>
>>>>> under the
>>>>> > >> component
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > ‘Client/java-driver’.
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > I'm in favor of using the same Jira as Cassandra
>>>>> proper.
>>>>> > >> Committership is
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > project-wide, so having a standardized process (same
>>>>> ticket
>>>>> > >> flow, review
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > rules, labels, etc. is beneficial). But multiple votes
>>>>> > >> happened based on
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > the content of the CEP, so we should stick to what
>>>>> was voted
>>>>> > >> on and move to
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > a separate Jira.
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > --
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > Abe
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >
>>>>> > >> >>> > > >
>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

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