Could we also rename CASSANDRASC to CASSSIDECAR ? And tbh, i'd much rather CASS-DRIVER-<lang>, CASS-ANALYTICS and CASS-SIDECAR (but ofc it's not really important)
On Thu, 17 Oct 2024 at 23:11, Štefan Miklošovič <smikloso...@apache.org> wrote: > Interesting, adding "-ana" suffix to a dc which is meant to be an > analytical one was pretty common in cases I saw. People just want to look > at it and see the difference, how do they name it then? dc2? Also, omitting > 2 letters does not seem like a typo to me either. > > > Anyway, we are clearly after the other so CASSANALYTICS be it. > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 3:03 PM Jon Haddad <j...@rustyrazorblade.com> > wrote: > >> +1 to CASSANALYTICS >> >> a fierce -1 to CASSANA. I’ve never once in my life seen this convention >> and id prefer clarity over saving a handful of characters. >> >> — >> Jon Haddad >> Rustyrazorblade Consulting >> rustyrazorblade.com >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 1:57 PM Štefan Miklošovič <smikloso...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> >>> CASSANA would do it. CASSANALYTICS is just too long. People are used to >>> the terminology of "ana" e.g. when naming their analytics data centers. >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 2:55 PM Bernardo Botella < >>> conta...@bernardobotella.com> wrote: >>> >>>> +1 to CASSANALYTICS >>>> >>>> On Oct 17, 2024, at 1:48 PM, Yifan Cai <yc25c...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> yep. CASSANALYTICS sounds good to me. +1 >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 1:45 PM Francisco Guerrero <fran...@apache.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> > Can we include Cassandra Analytics to the infra ticket? I am looking >>>>> > forward to jira project name suggestions for it... >>>>> >>>>> How about CASSANALYTICS ? >>>>> >>>>> On 2024/10/17 18:50:45 Yifan Cai wrote: >>>>> > Can we include Cassandra Analytics to the infra ticket? I am looking >>>>> > forward to jira project name suggestions for it... >>>>> > >>>>> > - Yifan >>>>> > >>>>> > On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 10:46 AM Patrick McFadin <pmcfa...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > > I think it needs a bit more blue. Maybe some pink stripes. I'll >>>>> file a >>>>> > > Jira. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 9:01 AM Brandon Williams <dri...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > > >>>>> > >> Thanks everyone, I've created >>>>> > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-26212 >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> Kind Regards, >>>>> > >> Brandon >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 9:55 AM Ekaterina Dimitrova >>>>> > >> <e.dimitr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > It would have been nice to be in red italic but… :-) >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > Thanks, Brandon, +1 to the suggestion on my end too. Sounds >>>>> reasonable >>>>> > >> to me >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > On Thu, 17 Oct 2024 at 17:50, Abe Ratnofsky <a...@aber.io> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> +1 to CASSDRIVER-JAVA et al. >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> On Oct 17, 2024, at 10:37 AM, Jon Haddad < >>>>> j...@rustyrazorblade.com> >>>>> > >> wrote: >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> Sgtm, let’s ship it >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> +1 >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 4:09 AM Brandon Williams < >>>>> dri...@gmail.com> >>>>> > >> wrote: >>>>> > >> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> Nobody wants to suggest a color for this bikeshed? I'll >>>>> start: >>>>> > >> >>> CASSDRIVER-<language>. I'd like to get on this sooner than >>>>> later since >>>>> > >> >>> during the time we wait the situation worsens. >>>>> > >> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> Kind Regards, >>>>> > >> >>> Brandon >>>>> > >> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 5:07 PM Brandon Williams < >>>>> dri...@gmail.com> >>>>> > >> wrote: >>>>> > >> >>> > >>>>> > >> >>> > I think we just need to ask infra to create the jira >>>>> instances, but >>>>> > >> I >>>>> > >> >>> > guess we need to have some kind of consistent naming scheme >>>>> to help >>>>> > >> >>> > identify them? >>>>> > >> >>> > >>>>> > >> >>> > Kind Regards, >>>>> > >> >>> > Brandon >>>>> > >> >>> > >>>>> > >> >>> > On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 1:02 PM Francisco Guerrero < >>>>> > >> fran...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>> > >> >>> > > >>>>> > >> >>> > > +1 too on the points brought by Mick, we need more >>>>> visibility into >>>>> > >> >>> > > subprojects. For starters, we should look into >>>>> integrating Qbot >>>>> > >> >>> > > notifications in #cassandra-dev and #cassandra-noise for >>>>> > >> >>> > > CASSANDRASC tickets. Let me know if I can help with that. >>>>> > >> >>> > > >>>>> > >> >>> > > On 2024/10/02 17:39:28 Yifan Cai wrote: >>>>> > >> >>> > > > +1 on all the points raised by Mick. Please let me know >>>>> if >>>>> > >> there is >>>>> > >> >>> > > > anything I can help with. >>>>> > >> >>> > > > >>>>> > >> >>> > > > - Yifan >>>>> > >> >>> > > > >>>>> > >> >>> > > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 8:13 AM Josh McKenzie < >>>>> > >> jmcken...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>> > >> >>> > > > >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > - Qbot notifications in #cassandra-dev and >>>>> #cassandra-noise , >>>>> > >> as well as >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > in any subproject channels >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > - some cadence of dev@ ML updates, e.g. on >>>>> activities, or >>>>> > >> dependency >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > changes, etc >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > - regular releases >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > Agree on all 3 points. Also - I've *definitely* >>>>> fallen off on >>>>> > >> the project >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > updates for mainline; I'll pick that back up after >>>>> ApacheCon. >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2024, at 1:57 AM, Mick Semb Wever >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > To play devil's advocate here, it's important that the >>>>> > >> subprojects don't >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > lose visibility and silo from the rest of the project. >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > There are different ways to solve this, and lumping >>>>> > >> everything into one >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > jira project is a messy and poor way of doing it. >>>>> But as the >>>>> > >> sidecar has >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > shown us, subproject activity should somehow be made >>>>> noisy to >>>>> > >> us. We need >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > sorts of common spaces in the project. >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > If we go the separate jira project route, then some >>>>> > >> suggestions to help >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > with this are: >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > - Qbot notifications in #cassandra-dev and >>>>> #cassandra-noise , >>>>> > >> as well as >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > in any subproject channels >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > - some cadence of dev@ ML updates, e.g. on >>>>> activities, or >>>>> > >> dependency >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > changes, etc >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > - regular releases >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 at 04:11, Dinesh Joshi < >>>>> djo...@apache.org> >>>>> > >> wrote: >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > hi folks - sorry to have dropped the ball on >>>>> responding to >>>>> > >> this thread. >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > My 2 cents are as follows - >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > 1. Having a separate JIRA project for each >>>>> sub-project will >>>>> > >> add management >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > overhead. This option, however, allows us to model >>>>> unique >>>>> > >> workflows for the >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > sub-project. >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > 2. Managing the sub-project as part of the Cassandra >>>>> JIRA >>>>> > >> project would >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > imply less management overhead but the sub-project >>>>> would need >>>>> > >> to conform to >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > the same workflows. >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > I would pick option 1 unless there is a strong reason >>>>> and >>>>> > >> desire to manage >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > a separate Jira project. We can always split out the >>>>> Java >>>>> > >> Driver project if >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > things don't work out. OTOH merging a Jira project is >>>>> harder. >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > Thanks, >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > Dinesh >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 12:45 PM Abe Ratnofsky < >>>>> a...@aber.io> >>>>> > >> wrote: >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > CEP-8 proposes using separate Jira projects per >>>>> Cassandra >>>>> > >> sub-project: >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>>>> > >> >>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/CEP-8%3A+DataStax+Drivers+Donation >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > > We suggest distinct Jira projects, one per driver, >>>>> all to >>>>> > >> be created. >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > I don't see any discussion changing that from the >>>>> [DISCUSS] >>>>> > >> or vote >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > threads: >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>>>> > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/01pljcncyjyo467l5orh8nf9okrh7oxm >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>>>> > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/opt630do09phh7hlt28odztxdv6g58dp >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>>>> > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/crolkrhd4y6tt3k4hsy204xomshlcp4p >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > But looks like upon acceptance that was changed: >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>>>> > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/dhov01s8dvvh3882oxhkmmfv4tqdd68o >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > > New issues will be tracked under the CASSANDRA >>>>> project on >>>>> > >> Apache’s JIRA < >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/CASSANDRA> >>>>> under the >>>>> > >> component >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > ‘Client/java-driver’. >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > I'm in favor of using the same Jira as Cassandra >>>>> proper. >>>>> > >> Committership is >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > project-wide, so having a standardized process (same >>>>> ticket >>>>> > >> flow, review >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > rules, labels, etc. is beneficial). But multiple votes >>>>> > >> happened based on >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > the content of the CEP, so we should stick to what >>>>> was voted >>>>> > >> on and move to >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > a separate Jira. >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > -- >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > Abe >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>>>> > >> >>> > > > >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>> >>>>