So we will have:
CASSANDRA CASS-DRIVER-JAVA CASS-DRIVER-GO CASS-ANALYTICS CASS-SIDECAR Isn't it weird that you said that we should not save characters at the cost of readability while we just use CASS everywhere except the main project? Why do you think that having "CASS-" will make people automatically think that this is Cassandra related. No other project in Apache (afaik) makes the shortcuts like that. On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 1:31 PM Yifan Cai <yc25c...@gmail.com> wrote: > That is good to know. > > My preference would be moving the driver projects and analytics first, and > renaming the sidecar project later. However, if it is not a concern, I am > fine with doing the change in bulk, especially if it is more convenient. > > - Yifan > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 11:24 AM Jon Haddad <j...@rustyrazorblade.com> > wrote: > >> I'm 95% sure it redirects automatically. I believe those redirects also >> work when moving issues from one project to another, so when we move all >> the driver issues to their own repos everything should keep working. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 11:21 AM Francisco Guerrero <fran...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> >>> This is one thing that comes to mind. >>> >>> All of the commits in Sidecar have a reference to the JIRA, if we switch >>> it from CASSANDRASC -> CASS-SIDECAR, will there he redirection of >>> these tickets? Or will be lose those links and the ability to >>> automatically >>> refer to the JIRAs? >>> >>> On 2024/10/18 18:17:16 Yifan Cai wrote: >>> > Anyone know if there are any traps when renaming a JIRA project? Since >>> we >>> > are talking about change CASSANDRASC to CASS-SIDECAR. >>> > >>> > >>> > - Yifan >>> > >>> > On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 10:50 AM Patrick McFadin <pmcfa...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > > Awesome. Now this is the bikeshedding I'm here for. :popcorn: >>> > > >>> > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 5:26 AM Brandon Williams <dri...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > > >>> > >> I think for the sidecar we need the dash to avoid the typo-likely >>> > >> 'SSS' wart. I have updated INFRA-26212 to follow CASS-DRIVER-<LANG>. >>> > >> >>> > >> Kind Regards, >>> > >> Brandon >>> > >> >>> > >> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 4:55 AM Mick Semb Wever <m...@apache.org> >>> wrote: >>> > >> > >>> > >> > Could we also rename CASSANDRASC to CASSSIDECAR ? >>> > >> > >>> > >> > And tbh, i'd much rather CASS-DRIVER-<lang>, CASS-ANALYTICS and >>> > >> CASS-SIDECAR >>> > >> > (but ofc it's not really important) >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > On Thu, 17 Oct 2024 at 23:11, Štefan Miklošovič < >>> smikloso...@apache.org> >>> > >> wrote: >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> Interesting, adding "-ana" suffix to a dc which is meant to be an >>> > >> analytical one was pretty common in cases I saw. People just want >>> to look >>> > >> at it and see the difference, how do they name it then? dc2? Also, >>> omitting >>> > >> 2 letters does not seem like a typo to me either. >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> Anyway, we are clearly after the other so CASSANALYTICS be it. >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 3:03 PM Jon Haddad < >>> j...@rustyrazorblade.com> >>> > >> wrote: >>> > >> >>> >>> > >> >>> +1 to CASSANALYTICS >>> > >> >>> >>> > >> >>> a fierce -1 to CASSANA. I’ve never once in my life seen this >>> > >> convention and id prefer clarity over saving a handful of >>> characters. >>> > >> >>> >>> > >> >>> — >>> > >> >>> Jon Haddad >>> > >> >>> Rustyrazorblade Consulting >>> > >> >>> rustyrazorblade.com >>> > >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > >> >>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 1:57 PM Štefan Miklošovič < >>> > >> smikloso...@apache.org> wrote: >>> > >> >>>> >>> > >> >>>> CASSANA would do it. CASSANALYTICS is just too long. People >>> are used >>> > >> to the terminology of "ana" e.g. when naming their analytics data >>> centers. >>> > >> >>>> >>> > >> >>>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 2:55 PM Bernardo Botella < >>> > >> conta...@bernardobotella.com> wrote: >>> > >> >>>>> >>> > >> >>>>> +1 to CASSANALYTICS >>> > >> >>>>> >>> > >> >>>>> On Oct 17, 2024, at 1:48 PM, Yifan Cai <yc25c...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > >> >>>>> >>> > >> >>>>> yep. CASSANALYTICS sounds good to me. +1 >>> > >> >>>>> >>> > >> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 1:45 PM Francisco Guerrero < >>> > >> fran...@apache.org> wrote: >>> > >> >>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>> > Can we include Cassandra Analytics to the infra ticket? I >>> am >>> > >> looking >>> > >> >>>>>> > forward to jira project name suggestions for it... >>> > >> >>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>> How about CASSANALYTICS ? >>> > >> >>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>> On 2024/10/17 18:50:45 Yifan Cai wrote: >>> > >> >>>>>> > Can we include Cassandra Analytics to the infra ticket? I >>> am >>> > >> looking >>> > >> >>>>>> > forward to jira project name suggestions for it... >>> > >> >>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>> > - Yifan >>> > >> >>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>> > On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 10:46 AM Patrick McFadin < >>> > >> pmcfa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >> >>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>> > > I think it needs a bit more blue. Maybe some pink >>> stripes. >>> > >> I'll file a >>> > >> >>>>>> > > Jira. >>> > >> >>>>>> > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 9:01 AM Brandon Williams < >>> > >> dri...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >> >>>>>> > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> Thanks everyone, I've created >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-26212 >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> Kind Regards, >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> Brandon >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 9:55 AM Ekaterina Dimitrova >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> <e.dimitr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> > It would have been nice to be in red italic but… :-) >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> > Thanks, Brandon, +1 to the suggestion on my end too. >>> Sounds >>> > >> reasonable >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> to me >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> > On Thu, 17 Oct 2024 at 17:50, Abe Ratnofsky < >>> a...@aber.io> >>> > >> wrote: >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >> >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >> +1 to CASSDRIVER-JAVA et al. >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >> >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >> On Oct 17, 2024, at 10:37 AM, Jon Haddad < >>> > >> j...@rustyrazorblade.com> >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> wrote: >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >> >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >> Sgtm, let’s ship it >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >> >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >> +1 >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >> >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >> >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >> >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 4:09 AM Brandon Williams < >>> > >> dri...@gmail.com> >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> wrote: >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> Nobody wants to suggest a color for this bikeshed? >>> I'll >>> > >> start: >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> CASSDRIVER-<language>. I'd like to get on this >>> sooner >>> > >> than later since >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> during the time we wait the situation worsens. >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> Kind Regards, >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> Brandon >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 5:07 PM Brandon Williams < >>> > >> dri...@gmail.com> >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> wrote: >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > I think we just need to ask infra to create the >>> jira >>> > >> instances, but >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> I >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > guess we need to have some kind of consistent >>> naming >>> > >> scheme to help >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > identify them? >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > Kind Regards, >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > Brandon >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 1:02 PM Francisco Guerrero >>> < >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> fran...@apache.org> wrote: >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > +1 too on the points brought by Mick, we need >>> more >>> > >> visibility into >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > subprojects. For starters, we should look into >>> > >> integrating Qbot >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > notifications in #cassandra-dev and >>> #cassandra-noise >>> > >> for >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > CASSANDRASC tickets. Let me know if I can help >>> with >>> > >> that. >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > On 2024/10/02 17:39:28 Yifan Cai wrote: >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > +1 on all the points raised by Mick. Please >>> let me >>> > >> know if >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> there is >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > anything I can help with. >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > - Yifan >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 8:13 AM Josh McKenzie < >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> jmcken...@apache.org> wrote: >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > - Qbot notifications in #cassandra-dev and >>> > >> #cassandra-noise , >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> as well as >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > in any subproject channels >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > - some cadence of dev@ ML updates, e.g. on >>> > >> activities, or >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> dependency >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > changes, etc >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > - regular releases >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > Agree on all 3 points. Also - I've >>> *definitely* >>> > >> fallen off on >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> the project >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > updates for mainline; I'll pick that back up >>> > >> after ApacheCon. >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2024, at 1:57 AM, Mick Semb >>> Wever >>> > >> wrote: >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > To play devil's advocate here, it's >>> important >>> > >> that the >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> subprojects don't >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > lose visibility and silo from the rest of >>> the >>> > >> project. >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > There are different ways to solve this, and >>> > >> lumping >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> everything into one >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > jira project is a messy and poor way of >>> doing >>> > >> it. But as the >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> sidecar has >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > shown us, subproject activity should >>> somehow be >>> > >> made noisy to >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> us. We need >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > sorts of common spaces in the project. >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > If we go the separate jira project route, >>> then >>> > >> some >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> suggestions to help >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > with this are: >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > - Qbot notifications in #cassandra-dev and >>> > >> #cassandra-noise , >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> as well as >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > in any subproject channels >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > - some cadence of dev@ ML updates, e.g. on >>> > >> activities, or >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> dependency >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > changes, etc >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > - regular releases >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 at 04:11, Dinesh Joshi < >>> > >> djo...@apache.org> >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> wrote: >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > hi folks - sorry to have dropped the ball on >>> > >> responding to >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> this thread. >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > My 2 cents are as follows - >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > 1. Having a separate JIRA project for each >>> > >> sub-project will >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> add management >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > overhead. This option, however, allows us to >>> > >> model unique >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> workflows for the >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > sub-project. >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > 2. Managing the sub-project as part of the >>> > >> Cassandra JIRA >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> project would >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > imply less management overhead but the >>> > >> sub-project would need >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> to conform to >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > the same workflows. >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > I would pick option 1 unless there is a >>> strong >>> > >> reason and >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> desire to manage >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > a separate Jira project. We can always >>> split out >>> > >> the Java >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> Driver project if >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > things don't work out. OTOH merging a Jira >>> > >> project is harder. >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > Thanks, >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > Dinesh >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 12:45 PM Abe >>> Ratnofsky < >>> > >> a...@aber.io> >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> wrote: >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > CEP-8 proposes using separate Jira projects >>> per >>> > >> Cassandra >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> sub-project: >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > >> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/CEP-8%3A+DataStax+Drivers+Donation >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > > We suggest distinct Jira projects, one per >>> > >> driver, all to >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> be created. >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > I don't see any discussion changing that >>> from the >>> > >> [DISCUSS] >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> or vote >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > threads: >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/01pljcncyjyo467l5orh8nf9okrh7oxm >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/opt630do09phh7hlt28odztxdv6g58dp >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/crolkrhd4y6tt3k4hsy204xomshlcp4p >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > But looks like upon acceptance that was >>> changed: >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/dhov01s8dvvh3882oxhkmmfv4tqdd68o >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > > New issues will be tracked under the >>> CASSANDRA >>> > >> project on >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> Apache’s JIRA < >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/CASSANDRA> >>> > >> under the >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> component >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > ‘Client/java-driver’. >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > I'm in favor of using the same Jira as >>> Cassandra >>> > >> proper. >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> Committership is >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > project-wide, so having a standardized >>> process >>> > >> (same ticket >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> flow, review >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > rules, labels, etc. is beneficial). But >>> multiple >>> > >> votes >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> happened based on >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > the content of the CEP, so we should stick >>> to >>> > >> what was voted >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> on and move to >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > a separate Jira. >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > -- >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > Abe >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >> >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >> >>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > >> >>>>>> > > >>> > >> >>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>> >>> > >> >>>>> >>> > >> >>> > > >>> > >>> >>
