> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .. he idea of helping slave
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > boss
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss has a rainbow
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem in his flower garden.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the problem is that psychedelic
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > colors are on not just the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > petals of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his flowers, but also his own
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > skin
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss [traveling landscape
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with torture victim double agent]:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "why do you let me h--"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss pauses and rethinks
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his expression
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [here we're considering if harm
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > could be reduced in the pattern
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > without worsening the power dynamics
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent has a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem that everybody he knows is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in poverty and has multiple medical
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problems unseen before by science
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so in a way both parties win, in that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they are casting their successes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as reducing the behaviors of the other
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent's joy comes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from not having to choose to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hurt people with part of his brain
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > third party: "oh no the situation is not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uncommon"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss looks at third party and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent: "although
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss loves me as his most
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doting devotee, he wants me to leave him
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a little time now."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss [with torture victim double
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > agent apart, to third party
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with camera]: "the word 'now'--
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss, third party with camera (who also
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > visited torture victim
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > double agent), and torture victim double
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > agent are all three apart
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss is running after third party with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > camera. his plan: to say
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that torture victim double agent plans his
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > murder and request
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > protection
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent is chatting up third
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > party with camera.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > like slave boss, he had also decided to run after
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > third party with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > camera, but was nearer from being engaged last
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when slave boss appears on the horizon, torture
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > victim double agent is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > visibly struck with intense terror for his life
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent is clutching a leg of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > third party with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > camera, staring at slave boss with eyes as wide as
> > > > > > > > > > > > > saucers as if
> > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing in the world matters, muscles tensed up,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > shaking violently
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > oops sent without content
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > slave boss is talking to a different third party
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "i really don't have any ability to love;
> > > > > > > > > > > this is what my
> > > > > > > > > > > therapist says"
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent jumps in. "slave boss! you
> > > > > > > > > > > know how to love!"
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > slave boss looks at torture victim double agent furiously
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent: "your father tried to rape
> > > > > > > > > > > the love out
> > > > > > > > > > > of you but you care! you value things! there's a human
> > > > > > > > > > > being under
> > > > > > > > > > > there!"
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > slave boss expresses subtle fury
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent picks up one of slave boss's
> > > > > > > > > > cigars then
> > > > > > > > > > looks at and it drops it on the floor in fear
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent looks at second third party
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent: "long ago slave boss was
> > > > > > > > > > forced into
> > > > > > > > > > organized crime and had to pray to somebody who always told
> > > > > > > > > > him to
> > > > > > > > > > fuck a blender, and really honestly believe that this was
> > > > > > > > > > what was
> > > > > > > > > > good and right to do"
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > slave boss: "i think that torture victim double agent would
> > > > > > > > > like me to
> > > > > > > > > leave now." slave boss looks at second third party. "however,
> > > > > > > > > i would
> > > > > > > > > like to know if you can help."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > first third party comes into the room briefly
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > second third party: "it sounds like when you would like torture
> > > > > > > > victim
> > > > > > > > double agent to leave, he leaves, but when he would like you
> > > > > > > > to, you
> > > > > > > > don't? is this correct?"
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > notes are being taken
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > third third party: "we are interested in helping the victims
> > > > > > > here."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > {{{{
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > there is sadly a situation in america where people who can clearly
> > > > > > > explain being victims are the only people who are generally
> > > > > > > helped.
> > > > > > > sometimes if a third party can clearly explain somebody is a
> > > > > > > victim,
> > > > > > > and then consent to being helped, then they are helped.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > sadly this leaves out almost everybody from aid. but it does keep
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > set of people aided to a workable number and focuses on people
> > > > > > > capable
> > > > > > > of adding clear useful information, which is helpful.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > i do not work in these things, these are just my observations.
> >
> > i guess we can derive that the prison system is used by slave boss as
> > a way to protect himself from something very scary by restraining
> > people who might get in his way and sending blame away from himself by
> > supporting it
> >
> > it's confusing. there are of course many places that support focused
> > punishment; i'm in the minority having been exposed to this being
> > undesired as a larger thing, although many people question punishment
> > in general when not taught otherwise. [one of the challenges seems to
> > be laws; no longer having a norm of productive debate we set laws that
> > leave people out
>
> it's sad because christianity is a huge punishment-oriented religion
> that has actually helped people in very great need (most successful
> antitrafficking groups appear to be christian); with all these valid
> people expressing meaning of assassination of jesus, it's not likely
> to be right to not have punishment as an approach; we need it to
> understand it being used in the past (have not read bible myself so
> hard to say much here)
but these people definitely want to punish bad things not good things
>
> >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > in the fictional situation, torture victim double agent is able to
> > > > > > clearly _demonstrate_ that he needs help, by the nature of his
> > > > > > coping
> > > > > > strategy, in an obscure and occasional way. this is slowly bringing
> > > > > > him help.
> > > > >
> > > > > slave boss: "you gotta understand. so many people ... like me ... have
> > > > > been killed by people like ... him."
> > > > >
> > > > > camera present
> > > > >
> > > > > third party: "would you save my life if i were in danger?"
> > > > >
> > > > > slave boss: "fuck no!" slave boss puts hand over mouth
> > > >
> > > > torture victim double agent: "slave boss has saved my life over and
> > > > over and ov--
> > >
> > > torture victim double agent: "the situation here is not complicated,
> > > everybody's just scared of it going in some poor way."
> > >
> > > torture victim double agent: "slave boss is scared because he lives in
> > > fear. i'm scared because i live in fear. you guys are confused and are
> > > going to make a poor decision because we all speak nonverbal languages
> > > and only use english to manipulate people."
> > >
> > > torture victim double agent: "slave boss is very dangerous and should
> > > be restrained without being harmed. he and both need recovery. i don't
> > > fully understand the recovery he needs."
> > >
> > > torture victim double agent: "_but_ the whole world is corrupt and
> > > everybody is acting on that, spreading horrible things that slave
> > > thinks protect him to take advantage of, actually worsening his
> > > situation more and more producing more confusions like me."
> > >
> > > torture victim double agent: "so the camera is helpful because i
> > > forget everything i'm saying the moment after i say it unless i think
> > > there's some record"
> > >
> > > torture victim double agent: "and slave boss is the same way, he just
> > > has good habits for rapin' people successfully that he learned from
> > > his dad"
