> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .. he
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > idea of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > helping
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rainbow
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his flower
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > garden.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the problem
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > psychedelic
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > colors are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on not just
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the petals
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flowers,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but also
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his own skin
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [traveling
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > landscape
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with torture
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > victim double
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > agent]:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "why do you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > let me h--"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pauses and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rethinks his
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > expression
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > double agent:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [here we're
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > considering if
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > harm could be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reduced in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pattern
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > without
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worsening the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > power dynamics
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > double agent
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has a problem
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that everybody
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he knows is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in poverty and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has multiple
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > medical
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problems unseen
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > before by
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > science
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so in a way both
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > parties win, in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that they are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > casting their
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > successes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as reducing the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > behaviors of the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > double agent's joy
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comes from not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > having to choose to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hurt people with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > part of his brain
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > third party: "oh no
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the situation is not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uncommon"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss looks at
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > third party and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > agent
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > agent: "although
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss loves me
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as his most
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doting devotee, he
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wants me to leave him
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a little time
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss [with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > agent apart, to third
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > party
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with camera]: "the word
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'now'--
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss, third party
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with camera (who also
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > visited torture victim
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > double agent), and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > agent are all three apart
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss is running after
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > third party with camera.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his plan: to say
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that torture victim double
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > agent plans his murder and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > request
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > protection
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is chatting up third party
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with camera.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like slave boss, he had also
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > decided to run after third
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > party with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > camera, but was nearer from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > being engaged last
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when slave boss appears on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the horizon, torture victim
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > double agent is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > visibly struck with intense
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > terror for his life
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > clutching a leg of third party
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > camera, staring at slave boss
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with eyes as wide as saucers as if
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing in the world matters,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > muscles tensed up, shaking
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > violently
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oops sent without content
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss is talking to a different
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > third party
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "i really don't have any
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ability to love; this is what my
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > therapist says"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent jumps in.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "slave boss! you know how to love!"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss looks at torture victim
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > double agent furiously
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent: "your
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > father tried to rape the love out
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of you but you care! you value
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > things! there's a human being under
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there!"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss expresses subtle fury
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent picks up
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one of slave boss's cigars then
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > looks at and it drops it on the floor
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in fear
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent looks at
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > second third party
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent: "long ago
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss was forced into
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > organized crime and had to pray to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > somebody who always told him to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fuck a blender, and really honestly
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > believe that this was what was
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good and right to do"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "i think that torture victim
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > double agent would like me to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > leave now." slave boss looks at second
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > third party. "however, i would
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like to know if you can help."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first third party comes into the room
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > briefly
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > second third party: "it sounds like when
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you would like torture victim
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > double agent to leave, he leaves, but when
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he would like you to, you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't? is this correct?"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > notes are being taken
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > third third party: "we are interested in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > helping the victims here."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > {{{{
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is sadly a situation in america where
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > people who can clearly
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > explain being victims are the only people who
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are generally helped.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sometimes if a third party can clearly
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > explain somebody is a victim,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and then consent to being helped, then they
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are helped.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sadly this leaves out almost everybody from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aid. but it does keep the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > set of people aided to a workable number and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > focuses on people capable
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of adding clear useful information, which is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > helpful.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i do not work in these things, these are just
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my observations.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > i guess we can derive that the prison system is used by
> > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss as
> > > > > > > > > > > > a way to protect himself from something very scary by
> > > > > > > > > > > > restraining
> > > > > > > > > > > > people who might get in his way and sending blame away
> > > > > > > > > > > > from himself by
> > > > > > > > > > > > supporting it
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > it's confusing. there are of course many places that
> > > > > > > > > > > > support focused
> > > > > > > > > > > > punishment; i'm in the minority having been exposed to
> > > > > > > > > > > > this being
> > > > > > > > > > > > undesired as a larger thing, although many people
> > > > > > > > > > > > question punishment
> > > > > > > > > > > > in general when not taught otherwise. [one of the
> > > > > > > > > > > > challenges seems to
> > > > > > > > > > > > be laws; no longer having a norm of productive debate
> > > > > > > > > > > > we set laws that
> > > > > > > > > > > > leave people out
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > it's sad because christianity is a huge
> > > > > > > > > > > punishment-oriented religion
> > > > > > > > > > > that has actually helped people in very great need (most
> > > > > > > > > > > successful
> > > > > > > > > > > antitrafficking groups appear to be christian); with all
> > > > > > > > > > > these valid
> > > > > > > > > > > people expressing meaning of assassination of jesus, it's
> > > > > > > > > > > not likely
> > > > > > > > > > > to be right to not have punishment as an approach; we
> > > > > > > > > > > need it to
> > > > > > > > > > > understand it being used in the past (have not read bible
> > > > > > > > > > > myself so
> > > > > > > > > > > hard to say much here)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > but these people definitely want to punish bad things not
> > > > > > > > > > good things
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > it's not my space to analyze that as i'm not experienced in
> > > > > > > > > being christian.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > but i think the space of caring feeling relation with diverse
> > > > > > > > > groups
> > > > > > > > > would open that.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > and we also find huge marketing and influence spaces
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > i suspect its our lack of productive debate and communication
> > > > > > > > across
> > > > > > > > differences, combined with heavy influence, that makes
> > > > > > > > situations like
> > > > > > > > that seem difficult rather than simple
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > now, media is huge. people get in media trances and all.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > but a lot of that influence is not just media, a lot of it is more
> > > > > > > like the influence over tvda. people are in situations that
> > > > > > > involve
> > > > > > > coercion to not reveal them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [[[i haven't voted since trump's first election oops]]]
> > > > > [[[if i do vote again soon, and it's for a national candidate, it will
> > > > > likely be because some part of me is telling me i have to, whether
> > > > > it's one part or the other, rather than an informed feeling choice of
> > > > > my own, until i have a _lot_ of therapy and recovery
> > > >
> > > > well or if we have somebody new who values something like actually
> > > > reliable communication, shielding, antitrafficking education, DID
> > > > recovery, real end-user device security, dismantling of centralized
> > > > and insecure digital infrastructure, or somesuch
> >
> > we could add transformative mediation to that list of things i'd consider
> > useful
> >
> > >
> > > arweave and bsv for president :D
> > > everything that happens will be on public log everywhere
> > >
> > > tvda could have a ball
>
> [elections of course are painful for everybody after seeing computers
> control them and not addressing that.
oh right in some spaces people could claim some degree of fairness by
claiming that the only AI has its degree of power controlled by the
amount of capital invested and depicting that as as fair situation
but for people who experienced slavery associated with it, it's not a
fair situation. people die for who is influenced to vote. it's deadly
and everybody knows it
> but we're likely to retain a democracy in america (not certain, but
> likely). things will keep develop--
>
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the fictional situation, torture victim
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > double agent is able to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > clearly _demonstrate_ that he needs help, by
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the nature of his coping
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > strategy, in an obscure and occasional way.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is slowly bringing
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > him help.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "you gotta understand. so many people
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... like me ... have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been killed by people like ... him."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > camera present
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > third party: "would you save my life if i were in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > danger?"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "fuck no!" slave boss puts hand over
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mouth
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent: "slave boss has saved
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > my life over and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > over and ov--
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent: "the situation here is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > not complicated,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > everybody's just scared of it going in some poor way."
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent: "slave boss is scared
> > > > > > > > > > > > > because he lives in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > fear. i'm scared because i live in fear. you guys are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > confused and are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > going to make a poor decision because we all speak
> > > > > > > > > > > > > nonverbal languages
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and only use english to manipulate people."
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent: "slave boss is very
> > > > > > > > > > > > > dangerous and should
> > > > > > > > > > > > > be restrained without being harmed. he and both need
> > > > > > > > > > > > > recovery. i don't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > fully understand the recovery he needs."
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent: "_but_ the whole world
> > > > > > > > > > > > > is corrupt and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > everybody is acting on that, spreading horrible
> > > > > > > > > > > > > things that slave
> > > > > > > > > > > > > thinks protect him to take advantage of, actually
> > > > > > > > > > > > > worsening his
> > > > > > > > > > > > > situation more and more producing more confusions
> > > > > > > > > > > > > like me."
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent: "so the camera is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > helpful because i
> > > > > > > > > > > > > forget everything i'm saying the moment after i say
> > > > > > > > > > > > > it unless i think
> > > > > > > > > > > > > there's some record"
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent: "and slave boss is the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > same way, he just
> > > > > > > > > > > > > has good habits for rapin' people successfully that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > he learned from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > his dad"
