> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .. he idea > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of helping > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has a rainbow > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his flower > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > garden. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the problem > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > psychedelic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > colors are on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not just the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > petals of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his flowers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but also his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > own skin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [traveling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > landscape with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > double agent]: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "why do you let > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me h--" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pauses and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rethinks his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > expression > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > double agent: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [here we're > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > considering if > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > harm could be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reduced in the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pattern > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > without worsening > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the power dynamics > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > double agent has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a problem that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everybody he > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > knows is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in poverty and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has multiple > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > medical problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unseen before by > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > science > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so in a way both > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > parties win, in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that they are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > casting their > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > successes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as reducing the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > behaviors of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > agent's joy comes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from not having to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > choose to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hurt people with part > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of his brain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > third party: "oh no the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > situation is not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uncommon" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss looks at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > third party and torture > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > victim double agent > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > agent: "although slave > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > boss loves me as his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doting devotee, he > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wants me to leave him > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a little time now." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss [with torture > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > victim double agent > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > apart, to third party > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with camera]: "the word > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'now'-- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss, third party > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with camera (who also > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > visited torture victim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > double agent), and torture > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > victim double agent are all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > three apart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss is running after > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > third party with camera. his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > plan: to say > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that torture victim double > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > agent plans his murder and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > request > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > protection > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > chatting up third party with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > camera. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like slave boss, he had also > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > decided to run after third party > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > camera, but was nearer from being > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > engaged last > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when slave boss appears on the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > horizon, torture victim double > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > agent is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > visibly struck with intense > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > terror for his life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > clutching a leg of third party with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > camera, staring at slave boss with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > eyes as wide as saucers as if > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing in the world matters, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > muscles tensed up, shaking violently > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oops sent without content > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss is talking to a different > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > third party > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "i really don't have any > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ability to love; this is what my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > therapist says" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent jumps in. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "slave boss! you know how to love!" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss looks at torture victim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > double agent furiously > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent: "your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > father tried to rape the love out > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of you but you care! you value things! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's a human being under > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there!" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss expresses subtle fury > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent picks up one > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of slave boss's cigars then > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > looks at and it drops it on the floor in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fear > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent looks at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > second third party > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent: "long ago > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss was forced into > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > organized crime and had to pray to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > somebody who always told him to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fuck a blender, and really honestly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > believe that this was what was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good and right to do" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "i think that torture victim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > double agent would like me to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > leave now." slave boss looks at second > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > third party. "however, i would > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like to know if you can help." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first third party comes into the room briefly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > second third party: "it sounds like when you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would like torture victim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > double agent to leave, he leaves, but when he > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would like you to, you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't? is this correct?" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > notes are being taken > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > third third party: "we are interested in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > helping the victims here." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > {{{{ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is sadly a situation in america where > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > people who can clearly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > explain being victims are the only people who > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are generally helped. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sometimes if a third party can clearly explain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > somebody is a victim, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and then consent to being helped, then they are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > helped. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sadly this leaves out almost everybody from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aid. but it does keep the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > set of people aided to a workable number and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > focuses on people capable > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of adding clear useful information, which is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > helpful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i do not work in these things, these are just > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my observations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i guess we can derive that the prison system is used by > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss as > > > > > > > > > > > a way to protect himself from something very scary by > > > > > > > > > > > restraining > > > > > > > > > > > people who might get in his way and sending blame away > > > > > > > > > > > from himself by > > > > > > > > > > > supporting it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's confusing. there are of course many places that > > > > > > > > > > > support focused > > > > > > > > > > > punishment; i'm in the minority having been exposed to > > > > > > > > > > > this being > > > > > > > > > > > undesired as a larger thing, although many people > > > > > > > > > > > question punishment > > > > > > > > > > > in general when not taught otherwise. [one of the > > > > > > > > > > > challenges seems to > > > > > > > > > > > be laws; no longer having a norm of productive debate we > > > > > > > > > > > set laws that > > > > > > > > > > > leave people out > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's sad because christianity is a huge punishment-oriented > > > > > > > > > > religion > > > > > > > > > > that has actually helped people in very great need (most > > > > > > > > > > successful > > > > > > > > > > antitrafficking groups appear to be christian); with all > > > > > > > > > > these valid > > > > > > > > > > people expressing meaning of assassination of jesus, it's > > > > > > > > > > not likely > > > > > > > > > > to be right to not have punishment as an approach; we need > > > > > > > > > > it to > > > > > > > > > > understand it being used in the past (have not read bible > > > > > > > > > > myself so > > > > > > > > > > hard to say much here) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but these people definitely want to punish bad things not > > > > > > > > > good things > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's not my space to analyze that as i'm not experienced in > > > > > > > > being christian. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but i think the space of caring feeling relation with diverse > > > > > > > > groups > > > > > > > > would open that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and we also find huge marketing and influence spaces > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i suspect its our lack of productive debate and communication > > > > > > > across > > > > > > > differences, combined with heavy influence, that makes situations > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > that seem difficult rather than simple > > > > > > > > > > > > now, media is huge. people get in media trances and all. > > > > > > > > > > > > but a lot of that influence is not just media, a lot of it is more > > > > > > like the influence over tvda. people are in situations that involve > > > > > > coercion to not reveal them. > > > > > > > > > > [[[i haven't voted since trump's first election oops]]] > > > > [[[if i do vote again soon, and it's for a national candidate, it will > > > > likely be because some part of me is telling me i have to, whether > > > > it's one part or the other, rather than an informed feeling choice of > > > > my own, until i have a _lot_ of therapy and recovery > > > > > > well or if we have somebody new who values something like actually > > > reliable communication, shielding, antitrafficking education, DID > > > recovery, real end-user device security, dismantling of centralized > > > and insecure digital infrastructure, or somesuch > > we could add transformative mediation to that list of things i'd consider > useful > > > > > arweave and bsv for president :D > > everything that happens will be on public log everywhere > > > > tvda could have a ball
[elections of course are painful for everybody after seeing computers control them and not addressing that. but we're likely to retain a democracy in america (not certain, but likely). things will keep develop-- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the fictional situation, torture victim double > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > agent is able to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > clearly _demonstrate_ that he needs help, by the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nature of his coping > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > strategy, in an obscure and occasional way. this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is slowly bringing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > him help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "you gotta understand. so many people > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... like me ... have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been killed by people like ... him." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > camera present > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > third party: "would you save my life if i were in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > danger?" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "fuck no!" slave boss puts hand over > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mouth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent: "slave boss has saved my > > > > > > > > > > > > > life over and > > > > > > > > > > > > > over and ov-- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent: "the situation here is not > > > > > > > > > > > > complicated, > > > > > > > > > > > > everybody's just scared of it going in some poor way." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent: "slave boss is scared > > > > > > > > > > > > because he lives in > > > > > > > > > > > > fear. i'm scared because i live in fear. you guys are > > > > > > > > > > > > confused and are > > > > > > > > > > > > going to make a poor decision because we all speak > > > > > > > > > > > > nonverbal languages > > > > > > > > > > > > and only use english to manipulate people." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent: "slave boss is very > > > > > > > > > > > > dangerous and should > > > > > > > > > > > > be restrained without being harmed. he and both need > > > > > > > > > > > > recovery. i don't > > > > > > > > > > > > fully understand the recovery he needs." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent: "_but_ the whole world is > > > > > > > > > > > > corrupt and > > > > > > > > > > > > everybody is acting on that, spreading horrible things > > > > > > > > > > > > that slave > > > > > > > > > > > > thinks protect him to take advantage of, actually > > > > > > > > > > > > worsening his > > > > > > > > > > > > situation more and more producing more confusions like > > > > > > > > > > > > me." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent: "so the camera is helpful > > > > > > > > > > > > because i > > > > > > > > > > > > forget everything i'm saying the moment after i say it > > > > > > > > > > > > unless i think > > > > > > > > > > > > there's some record" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent: "and slave boss is the > > > > > > > > > > > > same way, he just > > > > > > > > > > > > has good habits for rapin' people successfully that he > > > > > > > > > > > > learned from > > > > > > > > > > > > his dad"