> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .. he idea 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of helping 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has a rainbow 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem in 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his flower 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > garden.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the problem 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is that 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > psychedelic 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > colors are on 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not just the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > petals of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his flowers, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but also his 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > own skin
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [traveling 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > landscape with 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > double agent]:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "why do you let 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me h--"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pauses and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rethinks his 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > expression
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > double agent:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [here we're 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > considering if 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > harm could be 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reduced in the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pattern
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > without worsening 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the power dynamics
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > double agent has 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a problem that 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everybody he 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > knows is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in poverty and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has multiple 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > medical problems 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unseen before by 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > science
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so in a way both 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > parties win, in 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that they are 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > casting their 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > successes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as reducing the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > behaviors of the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > agent's joy comes 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from not having to 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > choose to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hurt people with part 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of his brain
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > third party: "oh no the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > situation is not 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uncommon"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss looks at 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > third party and torture 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > victim double agent
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > agent: "although slave 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > boss loves me as his 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > most
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doting devotee, he 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wants me to leave him 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a little time now."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss [with torture 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > victim double agent 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > apart, to third party
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with camera]: "the word 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'now'--
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss, third party 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with camera (who also 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > visited torture victim
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > double agent), and torture 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > victim double agent are all 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > three apart
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss is running after 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > third party with camera. his 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > plan: to say
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that torture victim double 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > agent plans his murder and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > request
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > protection
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent is 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > chatting up third party with 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > camera.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like slave boss, he had also 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > decided to run after third party 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > camera, but was nearer from being 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > engaged last
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when slave boss appears on the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > horizon, torture victim double 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > agent is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > visibly struck with intense 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > terror for his life
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent is 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > clutching a leg of third party with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > camera, staring at slave boss with 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > eyes as wide as saucers as if
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing in the world matters, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > muscles tensed up, shaking violently
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oops sent without content
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss is talking to a different 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > third party
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "i really don't have any 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ability to love; this is what my
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > therapist says"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent jumps in. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "slave boss! you know how to love!"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss looks at torture victim 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > double agent furiously
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent: "your 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > father tried to rape the love out
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of you but you care! you value things! 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's a human being under
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there!"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss expresses subtle fury
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent picks up one 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of slave boss's cigars then
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > looks at and it drops it on the floor in 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fear
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent looks at 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > second third party
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent: "long ago 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss was forced into
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > organized crime and had to pray to 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > somebody who always told him to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fuck a blender, and really honestly 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > believe that this was what was
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good and right to do"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "i think that torture victim 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > double agent would like me to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > leave now." slave boss looks at second 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > third party. "however, i would
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like to know if you can help."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first third party comes into the room briefly
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > second third party: "it sounds like when you 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would like torture victim
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > double agent to leave, he leaves, but when he 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would like you to, you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't? is this correct?"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > notes are being taken
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > third third party: "we are interested in 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > helping the victims here."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > {{{{
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is sadly a situation in america where 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > people who can clearly
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > explain being victims are the only people who 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are generally helped.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sometimes if a third party can clearly explain 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > somebody is a victim,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and then consent to being helped, then they are 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > helped.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sadly this leaves out almost everybody from 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aid. but it does keep the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > set of people aided to a workable number and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > focuses on people capable
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of adding clear useful information, which is 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > helpful.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i do not work in these things, these are just 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my observations.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > i guess we can derive that the prison system is used by 
> > > > > > > > > > > slave boss as
> > > > > > > > > > > a way to protect himself from something very scary by 
> > > > > > > > > > > restraining
> > > > > > > > > > > people who might get in his way and sending blame away 
> > > > > > > > > > > from himself by
> > > > > > > > > > > supporting it
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > it's confusing. there are of course many places that 
> > > > > > > > > > > support focused
> > > > > > > > > > > punishment; i'm in the minority having been exposed to 
> > > > > > > > > > > this being
> > > > > > > > > > > undesired as a larger thing, although many people 
> > > > > > > > > > > question punishment
> > > > > > > > > > > in general when not taught otherwise. [one of the 
> > > > > > > > > > > challenges seems to
> > > > > > > > > > > be laws; no longer having a norm of productive debate we 
> > > > > > > > > > > set laws that
> > > > > > > > > > > leave people out
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > it's sad because christianity is a huge punishment-oriented 
> > > > > > > > > > religion
> > > > > > > > > > that has actually helped people in very great need (most 
> > > > > > > > > > successful
> > > > > > > > > > antitrafficking groups appear to be christian); with all 
> > > > > > > > > > these valid
> > > > > > > > > > people expressing meaning of assassination of jesus, it's 
> > > > > > > > > > not likely
> > > > > > > > > > to be right to not have punishment as an approach; we need 
> > > > > > > > > > it to
> > > > > > > > > > understand it being used in the past (have not read bible 
> > > > > > > > > > myself so
> > > > > > > > > > hard to say much here)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > but these people definitely want to punish bad things not 
> > > > > > > > > good things
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > it's not my space to analyze that as i'm not experienced in 
> > > > > > > > being christian.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > but i think the space of caring feeling relation with diverse 
> > > > > > > > groups
> > > > > > > > would open that.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > and we also find huge marketing and influence spaces
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > i suspect its our lack of productive debate and communication 
> > > > > > > across
> > > > > > > differences, combined with heavy influence, that makes situations 
> > > > > > > like
> > > > > > > that seem difficult rather than simple
> > > > > >
> > > > > > now, media is huge. people get in media trances and all.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > but a lot of that influence is not just media, a lot of it is more
> > > > > > like the influence over tvda. people are in situations that involve
> > > > > > coercion to not reveal them.
> > > > >
> > > > > [[[i haven't voted since trump's first election oops]]]
> > > > [[[if i do vote again soon, and it's for a national candidate, it will
> > > > likely be because some part of me is telling me i have to, whether
> > > > it's one part or the other, rather than an informed feeling choice of
> > > > my own, until i have a _lot_ of therapy and recovery
> > >
> > > well or if we have somebody new who values something like actually
> > > reliable communication, shielding, antitrafficking education, DID
> > > recovery, real end-user device security, dismantling of centralized
> > > and insecure digital infrastructure, or somesuch
>
> we could add transformative mediation to that list of things i'd consider 
> useful
>
> >
> > arweave and bsv for president :D
> > everything that happens will be on public log everywhere
> >
> > tvda could have a ball

[elections of course are painful for everybody after seeing computers
control them and not addressing that.
but we're likely to retain a democracy in america (not certain, but
likely). things will keep develop--

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> > >
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> > > > > >
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> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the fictional situation, torture victim double 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > agent is able to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > clearly _demonstrate_ that he needs help, by the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nature of his coping
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > strategy, in an obscure and occasional way. this 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is slowly bringing
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > him help.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "you gotta understand. so many people 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... like me ... have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > been killed by people like ... him."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > camera present
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > third party: "would you save my life if i were in 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > danger?"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "fuck no!" slave boss puts hand over 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > mouth
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent: "slave boss has saved my 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > life over and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > over and ov--
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent: "the situation here is not 
> > > > > > > > > > > > complicated,
> > > > > > > > > > > > everybody's just scared of it going in some poor way."
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent: "slave boss is scared 
> > > > > > > > > > > > because he lives in
> > > > > > > > > > > > fear. i'm scared because i live in fear. you guys are 
> > > > > > > > > > > > confused and are
> > > > > > > > > > > > going to make a poor decision because we all speak 
> > > > > > > > > > > > nonverbal languages
> > > > > > > > > > > > and only use english to manipulate people."
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent: "slave boss is very 
> > > > > > > > > > > > dangerous and should
> > > > > > > > > > > > be restrained without being harmed. he and both need 
> > > > > > > > > > > > recovery. i don't
> > > > > > > > > > > > fully understand the recovery he needs."
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent: "_but_ the whole world is 
> > > > > > > > > > > > corrupt and
> > > > > > > > > > > > everybody is acting on that, spreading horrible things 
> > > > > > > > > > > > that slave
> > > > > > > > > > > > thinks protect him to take advantage of, actually 
> > > > > > > > > > > > worsening his
> > > > > > > > > > > > situation more and more producing more confusions like 
> > > > > > > > > > > > me."
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent: "so the camera is helpful 
> > > > > > > > > > > > because i
> > > > > > > > > > > > forget everything i'm saying the moment after i say it 
> > > > > > > > > > > > unless i think
> > > > > > > > > > > > there's some record"
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > torture victim double agent: "and slave boss is the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > same way, he just
> > > > > > > > > > > > has good habits for rapin' people successfully that he 
> > > > > > > > > > > > learned from
> > > > > > > > > > > > his dad"

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