I've never needed to start the engine to get the Espar to start. It has always started and run fine off the batteries.
Ken H. On 6 February 2016 at 14:52, Graham Collins via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > The Espar has an air intake hose, so provided the end of the hose is clear > of any fumes you are good to go. You could connect that through 'to the > main cabin if you wanted for enhanced piece of mind. If you have flammable > vapor in your main cabin then all bets are off... > > And these things are pretty miserly, I might go through a gallon or two > while working on the boat in the winter. So a tiny fuel tank would be > adequate. > > I'm surprised at Bill's comment about startup draw, I run mine off > batteries all the time and have never had an issue. > > Graham Collins > Secret Plans > C&C 35-III #11 > > On 2016-02-06 1:45 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List wrote: > > I'm reading the marine installation manual > <http://www.esparofmichigan.com/techsupport/pdfs/Marine%20installations/Airtronic%20marine_installation_manual.pdf> > and have some questions: > > - Under safety it reads: "The position of the combustion air must not > allow exhaust fumes or flammable vapour to be drawn in". I have a gasoline > tank in my engine compartment. Does this preclude me from installing one of > these? > > - Can anyone recommend a suitable fuel tank? I'de like something small > that I can top off from a jerry can, so I can secure it into place in the > lazarette. 5 gallons maybe? What are others using if using a separate tank? > > Thanks, > > Steve > Suhana, C&C 32 > Toronto > > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 8:11 PM, Stevan Plavsa <stevanpla...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi Russ, >> >> I figure with the newport, the tank is inside the cabin (somewhere behind >> the bulkhead I would imagine, hanging locker on my boat likely). With the >> espar/webasto, it's in the engine compartment. Also with the newport, this >> is pretty much how i have to mount it: >> >> http://www.thechandleryonline.com/images/productimages/thumbs/153_NewportHeaterInstalled.jpg >> >> Starboard I have a dinette and of course the mast. Port side isn't >> optimal either. Now that I'm thinking about the tank actually, and the >> venting, I'm not really sure where I'de locate a tank for the newport. >> >> Steve >> Suhana, C&C 32 >> Toronto >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 7:23 PM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List < >> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Steve, >>> >>> I should have listed install location in the "Cons:" list of the Newport >>> heater. It can be tricky. >>> >>> The link I sent is for Newport diesel bulkhead unit. The D2 has a huge >>> advantage on heat output on low settings, not to be overlooked. The Admiral >>> & I are a big fan of radiant heat, also not to be overlooked. >>> >>> Diesel is the fuel for both heaters and tank location with proper >>> venting is the same for both, so diesel odour is a wash, so to speak. The >>> tank can be almost anywhere for either unit and if elevation is such that >>> gravity feed is not going to work for the bulkhead heater then you get a >>> little impulse pump similar to what the Espar uses. I would see about >>> putting the tank in the cockpit combing area, that's high enough and easy >>> to fit a deck fill to keep everything outside. Either heater would like a 2 >>> - 4 gallon tank since you're looking at up to 1 gallon a day use in cold >>> conditions maybe a bit less for the D2. >>> >>> On the 40' wooden boat I'm fitting out for retirement cruising I will >>> have both types of heaters so I won't need to choose which one is best. :) >>> >>> Cheers, Russ >>> *Sweet *35 mk-1 >>> Vancouver Island >>> >>> >>> At 03:24 PM 05/02/2016, you wrote: >>> >>> Thanks for the helpful replies, all. >>> >>> Russ, I really love the idea of the newport heaters, to be honest, I >>> like the idea of solid fuel the most. A proper wood fire is one of my >>> favourite things. But the only units worth getting are expensive wood stove >>> types, which are super nice, but I can't justify the expense and they have >>> drawbacks on a boat. The espar is appealing because it's out of the way. >>> The problem for me with the diesel newport is the fuel. I have an A4 >>> powered boat and one thing I really like about my boat is that it doesn't >>> smell like diesel! The bulkhead diesel heater would necessitate a gravity >>> tank somewhere inside and I'm not sure where I'de have space, maybe in the >>> hanging locker. I'm concerned about the diesel smell. Most of what I've >>> read about them is good however and to your point, maybe more heat than the >>> D2, less money for sure. It's still an option, will my boat smell like >>> diesel? >>> >>> Steve >>> Suhana, C&C 32 >>> Toronto >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 6:15 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List < >>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>> How much fuel does the Espar burn an hour? I use a propane tent heater >>> the warms the cabin for 6 hrs on a small canister, but it's not dry heat. >>> It takes the chill off, but doesn't dry the inside on a foggy Maine >>> evening. >>> >>> Andy >>> C&C 40 >>> Peregrine >>> >>> >>> Andrew Burton >>> PO Box 632 >>> Newport, RI >>> USA 02840 >>> >>> +401 965 5260 >>> >>> >>> On Feb 5, 2016, at 17:29, William Walker via CnC-List < >>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>> >>> Steve, >>>  I have an espar installed by po, no problems in five years. But, >>> does have significant current draw at start up. I need to start engine to >>> fire up unless on shore power. After it gets going no problem. Outlet >>> in main cabin, v berth and head. >>> Bill Walker >>> Pentwater Mi >>> CnC 36 >>> >>> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> On Friday, February 5, 2016 Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List < >>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I'm starting to look at the Espar and Webasto units. Is anyone running >>> one on a 32? There's a good price jump from the Espar D2 to the D4. The >>> literature indicates the D2 is good to 26 feet of boat, so it sounds like I >>> need the D4 :( >>> >>> My use is Georgian Bay, just want to extend the season, not living >>> aboard in the winter. The boat is two hours away so there will be >>> "maintenance" trips in the spring and fall which means sleeping aboard, it >>> can get quite cold up there. >>> >>> I have to keep the temps warm for the boat parrot who'll be living >>> aboard with us while we cruise. We're planning three weeks in August this >>> year so it shouldn't be too much of an issue but it gets cold up there at >>> night, even in August. I imagine a D2 would be fine for cold summer nights >>> but I have ideas about maybe cruising the North Channel when the fall >>> colours are out. I don't want to limit myself. At the same time, I don't >>> want to spend money that could go elsewhere. >>> >>> The Newport Dickinson Diesel bulkhead heaters are pretty but I hear they >>> don't make quite enough heat. I'm leaning this way for the cost, but don't >>> want to be disappointed. Everyone says the Espar and Webastos are best. >>> >>> I'de be doing the installation myself in any case so am eager to hear >>> from others who have gone through it. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Steve >>> Suhana, C&C 32 >>> Toronto >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ Email address: >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including >>> unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Email address: >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >>> bottom of page at: >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Email address: >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >>> bottom of page at: >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Email address: >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >>> bottom of page at: >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Email address: >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >>> bottom of page at: >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>> >>> >>> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom > of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > >
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