Thanks Graham I may do that in the spring.
Bill
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On Sunday, February 7, 2016 Graham Collins via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:
Hi Bill
It might be worth contacting Espar about it, I don't think that should be
running like that. The D5 I'm running is a fair sized unit, and startup has
never been a big power hit.
Graham Collins Secret Plans C&C 35-III #11
On 2016-02-06 5:17 PM, William Walker via CnC-List wrote:
Graham,
Your thoughts would appreciated on start up draw. Prior owner installed in
port Lazarette. He is particular guy, all looks well done, but he told me
about current draw and starting engine to get it going. After its running
seems to do fine off twin house batteries.
Bill Walker
CnC 36
Pentwater, Mi
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On Saturday, February 6, 2016 Graham Collins via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
The Espar has an air intake hose, so provided the end of the hose is clear of
any fumes you are good to go. You could connect that through 'to the main
cabin if you wanted for enhanced piece of mind. If you have flammable vapor in
your main cabin then all bets are off...
And these things are pretty miserly, I might go through a gallon or two while
working on the boat in the winter. So a tiny fuel tank would be adequate.
I'm surprised at Bill's comment about startup draw, I run mine off batteries
all the time and have never had an issue.
Graham Collins Secret Plans C&C 35-III #11
On 2016-02-06 1:45 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List wrote:
I'm reading the marine installation manual and have some questions:
- Under safety it reads: "The position of the combustion air must not allow
exhaust fumes or flammable vapour to be drawn in". I have a gasoline tank in my
engine compartment. Does this preclude me from installing one of these?
- Can anyone recommend a suitable fuel tank? I'de like something small that I
can top off from a jerry can, so I can secure it into place in the lazarette. 5
gallons maybe? What are others using if using a separate tank?
Thanks,
Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 8:11 PM, Stevan Plavsa <stevanpla...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Russ,
I figure with the newport, the tank is inside the cabin (somewhere behind the
bulkhead I would imagine, hanging locker on my boat likely). With the
espar/webasto, it's in the engine compartment. Also with the newport, this is
pretty much how i have to mount it:
http://www.thechandleryonline.com/images/productimages/thumbs/153_NewportHeaterInstalled.jpg
Starboard I have a dinette and of course the mast. Port side isn't optimal
either. Now that I'm thinking about the tank actually, and the venting, I'm not
really sure where I'de locate a tank for the newport.
Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 7:23 PM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Hi Steve,
I should have listed install location in the "Cons:" list of the Newport
heater. It can be tricky.
The link I sent is for Newport diesel bulkhead unit. The D2 has a huge
advantage on heat output on low settings, not to be overlooked. The Admiral & I
are a big fan of radiant heat, also not to be overlooked.
Diesel is the fuel for both heaters and tank location with proper venting is
the same for both, so diesel odour is a wash, so to speak. The tank can be
almost anywhere for either unit and if elevation is such that gravity feed is
not going to work for the bulkhead heater then you get a little impulse pump
similar to what the Espar uses. I would see about putting the tank in the
cockpit combing area, that's high enough and easy to fit a deck fill to keep
everything outside. Either heater would like a 2 - 4 gallon tank since you're
looking at up to 1 gallon a day use in cold conditions maybe a bit less for the
D2.
On the 40' wooden boat I'm fitting out for retirement cruising I will have both
types of heaters so I won't need to choose which one is best. :)
Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35 mk-1
Vancouver Island
At 03:24 PM 05/02/2016, you wrote:
Thanks for the helpful replies, all.
Russ, I really love the idea of the newport heaters, to be honest, I like the
idea of solid fuel the most. A proper wood fire is one of my favourite things.
But the only units worth getting are expensive wood stove types, which are
super nice, but I can't justify the expense and they have drawbacks on a boat.
The espar is appealing because it's out of the way. The problem for me with the
diesel newport is the fuel. I have an A4 powered boat and one thing I really
like about my boat is that it doesn't smell like diesel! The bulkhead diesel
heater would necessitate a gravity tank somewhere inside and I'm not sure where
I'de have space, maybe in the hanging locker. I'm concerned about the diesel
smell. Most of what I've read about them is good however and to your point,
maybe more heat than the D2, less money for sure. It's still an option, will my
boat smell like diesel?Â
Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 6:15 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
How much fuel does the Espar burn an hour? I use a propane tent heater the
warms the cabin for 6 hrs on a small canister, but it's not dry heat. It takes
the chill off, but doesn't dry the inside on a foggy Maine evening.Â
Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine
Andrew Burton
PO Box 632
Newport, RIÂ
USA 02840
+401 965Â 5260
On Feb 5, 2016, at 17:29, William Walker via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:
Steve,
 I have an espar installed by po, no problems in five years. But, does
have significant current draw at start up. I need to start engine to fire up
unless on shore power. After it gets going no problem. Outlet in main
cabin, v berth and head.Â
Bill Walker
Pentwater Mi
CnCÂ 36
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On Friday, February 5, 2016 Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:
Hi All,
I'm starting to look at the Espar and Webasto units. Is anyone running one on a
32? There's a good price jump from the Espar D2 to the D4. The literature
indicates the D2 is good to 26 feet of boat, so it sounds like I need the D4 :(
My use is Georgian Bay, just want to extend the season, not living aboard in
the winter. The boat is two hours away so there will be "maintenance" trips in
the spring and fall which means sleeping aboard, it can get quite cold up
there.Â
I have to keep the temps warm for the boat parrot who'll be living aboard with
us while we cruise. We're planning three weeks in August this year so it
shouldn't be too much of an issue but it gets cold up there at night, even in
August. I imagine a D2 would be fine for cold summer nights but I have ideas
about maybe cruising the North Channel when the fall colours are out. I don't
want to limit myself. At the same time, I don't want to spend money that could
go elsewhere.Â
The Newport Dickinson Diesel bulkhead heaters are pretty but I hear they don't
make quite enough heat. I'm leaning this way for the cost, but don't want to be
disappointed. Everyone says the Espar and Webastos are best.Â
I'de be doing the installation myself in any case so am eager to hear from
others who have gone through it.Â
Thanks,
Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto
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