The Espar has an air intake hose, so provided the end of the hose is
clear of any fumes you are good to go. You could connect that through
'to the main cabin if you wanted for enhanced piece of mind. If you
have flammable vapor in your main cabin then all bets are off...
And these things are pretty miserly, I might go through a gallon or two
while working on the boat in the winter. So a tiny fuel tank would be
adequate.
I'm surprised at Bill's comment about startup draw, I run mine off
batteries all the time and have never had an issue.
Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C&C 35-III #11
On 2016-02-06 1:45 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List wrote:
I'm reading the marine installation manual
<http://www.esparofmichigan.com/techsupport/pdfs/Marine%20installations/Airtronic%20marine_installation_manual.pdf>
and have some questions:
- Under safety it reads: "The position of the combustion air must not
allow exhaust fumes or flammable vapour to be drawn in". I have a
gasoline tank in my engine compartment. Does this preclude me from
installing one of these?
- Can anyone recommend a suitable fuel tank? I'de like something small
that I can top off from a jerry can, so I can secure it into place in
the lazarette. 5 gallons maybe? What are others using if using a
separate tank?
Thanks,
Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 8:11 PM, Stevan Plavsa <stevanpla...@gmail.com
<mailto:stevanpla...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Russ,
I figure with the newport, the tank is inside the cabin (somewhere
behind the bulkhead I would imagine, hanging locker on my boat
likely). With the espar/webasto, it's in the engine compartment.
Also with the newport, this is pretty much how i have to mount it:
http://www.thechandleryonline.com/images/productimages/thumbs/153_NewportHeaterInstalled.jpg
Starboard I have a dinette and of course the mast. Port side isn't
optimal either. Now that I'm thinking about the tank actually, and
the venting, I'm not really sure where I'de locate a tank for the
newport.
Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 7:23 PM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi Steve,
I should have listed install location in the "Cons:" list of
the Newport heater. It can be tricky.
The link I sent is for Newport diesel bulkhead unit. The D2
has a huge advantage on heat output on low settings, not to be
overlooked. The Admiral & I are a big fan of radiant heat,
also not to be overlooked.
Diesel is the fuel for both heaters and tank location with
proper venting is the same for both, so diesel odour is a
wash, so to speak. The tank can be almost anywhere for either
unit and if elevation is such that gravity feed is not going
to work for the bulkhead heater then you get a little impulse
pump similar to what the Espar uses. I would see about putting
the tank in the cockpit combing area, that's high enough and
easy to fit a deck fill to keep everything outside. Either
heater would like a 2 - 4 gallon tank since you're looking at
up to 1 gallon a day use in cold conditions maybe a bit less
for the D2.
On the 40' wooden boat I'm fitting out for retirement cruising
I will have both types of heaters so I won't need to choose
which one is best. :)
Cheers, Russ
/Sweet /35 mk-1
Vancouver Island
At 03:24 PM 05/02/2016, you wrote:
Thanks for the helpful replies, all.
Russ, I really love the idea of the newport heaters, to be
honest, I like the idea of solid fuel the most. A proper wood
fire is one of my favourite things. But the only units worth
getting are expensive wood stove types, which are super nice,
but I can't justify the expense and they have drawbacks on a
boat. The espar is appealing because it's out of the way. The
problem for me with the diesel newport is the fuel. I have an
A4 powered boat and one thing I really like about my boat is
that it doesn't smell like diesel! The bulkhead diesel heater
would necessitate a gravity tank somewhere inside and I'm not
sure where I'de have space, maybe in the hanging locker. I'm
concerned about the diesel smell. Most of what I've read
about them is good however and to your point, maybe more heat
than the D2, less money for sure. It's still an option, will
my boat smell like diesel?Â
Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 6:15 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
How much fuel does the Espar burn an hour? I use a
propane tent heater the warms the cabin for 6 hrs on a
small canister, but it's not dry heat. It takes the chill
off, but doesn't dry the inside on a foggy Maine evening.Â
Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine
Andrew Burton
PO Box 632
Newport, RIÂ
USA 02840
+401 965Â 5260
On Feb 5, 2016, at 17:29, William Walker via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Steve,
 I have an espar installed by po, no problems in
five years. But, does have significant current
draw at start up. I need to start engine to fire up
unless on shore power. After it gets going no
problem. Outlet in main cabin, v berth and head.Â
Bill Walker
Pentwater Mi
CnCÂ 36
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On Friday, February 5, 2016 Stevan Plavsa via
CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com
<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi All,
I'm starting to look at the Espar and Webasto units.
Is anyone running one on a 32? There's a good price
jump from the Espar D2 to the D4. The literature
indicates the D2 is good to 26 feet of boat, so it
sounds like I need the D4 :(
My use is Georgian Bay, just want to extend the
season, not living aboard in the winter. The boat is
two hours away so there will be "maintenance" trips
in the spring and fall which means sleeping aboard,
it can get quite cold up there.Â
I have to keep the temps warm for the boat parrot
who'll be living aboard with us while we cruise.
We're planning three weeks in August this year so it
shouldn't be too much of an issue but it gets cold
up there at night, even in August. I imagine a D2
would be fine for cold summer nights but I have
ideas about maybe cruising the North Channel when
the fall colours are out. I don't want to limit
myself. At the same time, I don't want to spend
money that could go elsewhere.Â
The Newport Dickinson Diesel bulkhead heaters are
pretty but I hear they don't make quite enough heat.
I'm leaning this way for the cost, but don't want to
be disappointed. Everyone says the Espar and
Webastos are best.Â
I'de be doing the installation myself in any case so
am eager to hear from others who have gone through it.Â
Thanks,
Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto
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