> I’m reading that using a sock can be a bit challenging and can easily foul > midway through the hoist or douse if care isn’t taken to keep lines clear. > Any recommendations? Can one assume that the ATN or North products work > equally well (or poorly)?
I have an ATN sock on Calypso and have used other ATN socks on offshore deliveries of two other boats at 46’ and 55’. I have not used a North Sails spinnaker sock. The ATN has a feature to help reduce control line tangling. The control lines run through a different color fabric sleeve. On Calypso’s ATN sock, the control line sleeve is grey, the rest of the sock white. When hoisting, I make sure all the grey colored fabric is facing in, top to bottom. This practice has almost always worked to prevent the control lines from either being twisted or set to the outside, away from the deck. When I pack the sail/sock combo into its bag, I follow the grey color fabric just like following a spinnaker’s luff tape. I leave the head draped over the bag’s opening until the collar, clews, and control line has been neatly stacked at the top of the bag. After a hoist, I tie the control lines to a cleat near the base of the mast. When gybing I move the control line forward and temporarily tie it to the bow pulpit, forward of the forestay. After the gybe is complete I move the line back to the mast base on the leeward side, ready for a dowse should one be called for. One of the tangling while hoisting issues I have experienced +-50% of the time is a bunching of the sail material making it difficult to raise the collar. Calypso’s symmetrical spinnaker is full size with broad shoulders. If, during the prior take down the sail material was not uniformly distributed as the sock was lowered the material bunches 2/3rds the way down. To reduce the hassle factor of this bunching (I may have referred to this as Calypso’s panties have gotten into a bunch) once the sail/sock is at full hoist and the cockpit crew is ready for the sail to be released I pull handfuls of sail material down out of the collar as the crew gently pulls back on the sheet (the guy is pre-fed into position). By pulling down on the material it clears the bunched up sail and the collar rises quickly. Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 C&C 43 Seattle [Description: Description: cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F] On Dec 22, 2015, at 7:28 AM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Hi All, I’m purchasing a Landfall 35 that has a brand new gennaker but no sock or snuffer. From several forum posts, I’m reading that using a sock can be a bit challenging and can easily foul midway through the hoist or douse if care isn’t taken to keep lines clear. Any recommendations? Can one assume that the ATN or North products work equally well (or poorly)? Most of the sailhandling with be done double handed with the help of my teenage son, thus the reason for the post. The main and jib halyards are run aft to the cockpit, but I believe the spin halyard stays up by the mast, something I may likely change. The new boat is on the hard, mast down and there aren’t any winches on the mast (only on the boom for outhaul and reefing). From the factory, this boat has two dedicated halyard winches and cleats (not clutches) on the coach roof with pass through holes in the cockpit coaming for the main and jib halyards, but not seeing anything obvious for the spin halyard. Thanks in advance for any feedback from sock users… Chuck Gilchrest S/V Half Magic 1975 25 Mk1 S/V Orion 1983 Landfall 35 Padanaram, MA
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