I think that's what I had on my J/80, Dennis.

Andy
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Newport, RI

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> On Dec 21, 2015, at 20:39, Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Go to apsltd.com and search for a spinnaker halyard parking bracket. It's 
> what you need on the mast for hoisting a chute short handed. 
> 
> Dennis C.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 21, 2015, at 6:54 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> 
>> My spin halyards can be put into a cam cleat on the mast but run back to 
>> clutches.  Hoist at the mast. Generally drop from the cockpit unless short 
>> handed. 
>> 
>> Joel 
>> 
>>> On Monday, December 21, 2015, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List 
>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>> > The question next is what to do about the spinnaker halyard. I can 
>>> > probably make a case for it being forward in some configuration given 
>>> > that my wife and I will be using a cruising A-sym with a sock and that 
>>> > would only be in lightish air.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Calypso and our last boat (a C&C 36) we had the spin halyard forward so 
>>> 1 person is able to hoist/dowse with the spin sock.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Calypso’s full size spin, even in a ATN sock is a hand full in TWS above 
>>> 15.  Both hoisting and dropping, in the sock, is easier on a run.  Avoid 
>>> either on a reach.  Early in our double-handed racing I got a bit too fancy 
>>> with my leeward mark rounding tactics and was nearly dragged off the 
>>> foredeck by the sock’s windage.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Back when we had the 36, the cruising A-sym in a sock was easy to handle in 
>>> any conditions that a spinnaker would be needed.  Having the halyard 
>>> forward allowed me to hold it in one hand and use the other to wrangle the 
>>> sock onto the foredeck.  Both the ATN sock(s) and the cuff that goes over a 
>>> rolled up headsail for the A-sym tack have worked well.  For Calypso I wish 
>>> there had been a carbon fiber hoop option back in 1999 when we purchased 
>>> our sock.  The large size fiberglass version is a bit heavy.  Maybe after I 
>>> finish Calypso’s deck rebuild I will fabricate a carbon hoop at home.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Martin DeYoung
>>> 
>>> Calypso
>>> 
>>> 1971 C&C 43
>>> 
>>> Seattle
>>> 
>>> 
>>> <image001.png>
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave 
>>> Godwin via CnC-List
>>> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 4:25 PM
>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> Cc: Dave Godwin
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Lines led forward
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> These observations bring me back to the realities of halyard/reef 
>>> management with lines led aft versus forward.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> “Forward” on larger boats generally means winches mounted on the mast 
>>> in-line with the halyards with appropriate line-stoppers. With this 
>>> configuration, and suitable bracing, reefing the main in rough weather is 
>>> pretty “safe” and in my experience faster and more efficient.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I’m afraid that my 37’ just doesn’t quite make the grade in terms of a 
>>> larger,more stable boat, much that I might wish otherwise. And what I am 
>>> trying to achieve is less clutter in the cockpit which is at odds with 
>>> safety considerations. I have no intention nor do I think if would be very 
>>> feasible to mount winches on my mast. This leaves me with the prospect of 
>>> moving the mechanical advantage away from the mast to a position in the 
>>> middle of the boat. That modification right away eliminates the ability for 
>>> one person to quickly pull in a reef from a single location.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> With that in mind, it may devolve down to moving the both the jib halyards 
>>> forward. I don’t race this boat nor will I ever and after the furling jib 
>>> is hoisted the 1st jib halyard is rarely touched unless there is a pressing 
>>> need to adjust luff tension. The 2nd jib halyard remains dormant for the 
>>> season and is reserved for emergency duties. Inside/outside peels are thing 
>>> of the past…
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Right now a quick analysis leads to keeping the main halyard, 1st and 2nd 
>>> reefing lines led aft to the cockpit. One winch for the main halyard and 
>>> one for the mainsheet which will reduce the winch farm from four to two. 
>>> Reefing lines led to the “unloaded” main halyard winch after the main has 
>>> been placed in the tack horn and secured by one of several line stoppers.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> The question next is what to do about the spinnaker halyard. I can probably 
>>> make a case for it being forward in some configuration given that my wife 
>>> and I will be using a cruising A-sym with a sock and that would only be in 
>>> lightish air. The symmetrical has been retired and most likely the 
>>> spinnaker pole will continue to reside in the rafters of my shed.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Much as I keep thinking about moving back to winch farms on the deck, that 
>>> is an artifact from the old IOR/Tonner days with lot’s of young agile crew.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I dunno, clearly it’s still a moving target for me. More crumpled up pieces 
>>> of paper with deck layout designs in the trash can.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Dave Godwin
>>> 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
>>> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
>>> 
>>> Ronin’s Overdue Refit
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Joel 
>> 301 541 8551
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