My spin halyards are led from the exit boxes up high on the mast, then through a clutch and down to a block at the base of the mast and to the winch on either side of the mast. I have three winches at the mast base; one dedicated for the main halyard and one for the spin or jib on each side. Clutches are my friend. I like the spin halyard arrangement. I can hoist the asym in the sock and make sure it goes up clean and when it's time to douse, I can ease it down straight into the bag. I mostly cruise, but this works well for racing, too.
Andy C&C 40 Peregrine Newport, RI Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 > On Dec 21, 2015, at 19:48, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > > The question next is what to do about the spinnaker halyard. I can probably > > make a case for it being forward in some configuration given that my wife > > and I will be using a cruising A-sym with a sock and that would only be in > > lightish air. > > On Calypso and our last boat (a C&C 36) we had the spin halyard forward so 1 > person is able to hoist/dowse with the spin sock. > > Calypso’s full size spin, even in a ATN sock is a hand full in TWS above 15. > Both hoisting and dropping, in the sock, is easier on a run. Avoid either on > a reach. Early in our double-handed racing I got a bit too fancy with my > leeward mark rounding tactics and was nearly dragged off the foredeck by the > sock’s windage. > > Back when we had the 36, the cruising A-sym in a sock was easy to handle in > any conditions that a spinnaker would be needed. Having the halyard forward > allowed me to hold it in one hand and use the other to wrangle the sock onto > the foredeck. Both the ATN sock(s) and the cuff that goes over a rolled up > headsail for the A-sym tack have worked well. For Calypso I wish there had > been a carbon fiber hoop option back in 1999 when we purchased our sock. The > large size fiberglass version is a bit heavy. Maybe after I finish Calypso’s > deck rebuild I will fabricate a carbon hoop at home. > > Martin DeYoung > Calypso > 1971 C&C 43 > Seattle > > <image001.png> > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave > Godwin via CnC-List > Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 4:25 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Dave Godwin > Subject: Re: Stus-List Lines led forward > > These observations bring me back to the realities of halyard/reef management > with lines led aft versus forward. > > “Forward” on larger boats generally means winches mounted on the mast in-line > with the halyards with appropriate line-stoppers. With this configuration, > and suitable bracing, reefing the main in rough weather is pretty “safe” and > in my experience faster and more efficient. > > I’m afraid that my 37’ just doesn’t quite make the grade in terms of a > larger,more stable boat, much that I might wish otherwise. And what I am > trying to achieve is less clutter in the cockpit which is at odds with safety > considerations. I have no intention nor do I think if would be very feasible > to mount winches on my mast. This leaves me with the prospect of moving the > mechanical advantage away from the mast to a position in the middle of the > boat. That modification right away eliminates the ability for one person to > quickly pull in a reef from a single location. > > With that in mind, it may devolve down to moving the both the jib halyards > forward. I don’t race this boat nor will I ever and after the furling jib is > hoisted the 1st jib halyard is rarely touched unless there is a pressing need > to adjust luff tension. The 2nd jib halyard remains dormant for the season > and is reserved for emergency duties. Inside/outside peels are thing of the > past… > > Right now a quick analysis leads to keeping the main halyard, 1st and 2nd > reefing lines led aft to the cockpit. One winch for the main halyard and one > for the mainsheet which will reduce the winch farm from four to two. Reefing > lines led to the “unloaded” main halyard winch after the main has been placed > in the tack horn and secured by one of several line stoppers. > > The question next is what to do about the spinnaker halyard. I can probably > make a case for it being forward in some configuration given that my wife and > I will be using a cruising A-sym with a sock and that would only be in > lightish air. The symmetrical has been retired and most likely the spinnaker > pole will continue to reside in the rafters of my shed. > > Much as I keep thinking about moving back to winch farms on the deck, that is > an artifact from the old IOR/Tonner days with lot’s of young agile crew. > > I dunno, clearly it’s still a moving target for me. More crumpled up pieces > of paper with deck layout designs in the trash can. > > Cheers, > Dave Godwin > 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin > Reedville - Chesapeake Bay > Ronin’s Overdue Refit > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom > of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >
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