I think keeping spinnaker halyards by the mast is a good idea from many different viewpoints. When using the spinnaker usually you are in light air anyway and safety is not a concern.
Bob Sent from my iPhone, Bob Boyer > On Dec 21, 2015, at 8:10 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > My spin halyards are led from the exit boxes up high on the mast, then > through a clutch and down to a block at the base of the mast and to the winch > on either side of the mast. I have three winches at the mast base; one > dedicated for the main halyard and one for the spin or jib on each side. > Clutches are my friend. > I like the spin halyard arrangement. I can hoist the asym in the sock and > make sure it goes up clean and when it's time to douse, I can ease it down > straight into the bag. > I mostly cruise, but this works well for racing, too. > > Andy > C&C 40 > Peregrine > Newport, RI > > Andrew Burton > 61 W Narragansett > Newport, RI > USA 02840 > > http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ > +401 965-5260 > >> On Dec 21, 2015, at 19:48, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List >> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> > The question next is what to do about the spinnaker halyard. I can >> > probably make a case for it being forward in some configuration given that >> > my wife and I will be using a cruising A-sym with a sock and that would >> > only be in lightish air. >> >> On Calypso and our last boat (a C&C 36) we had the spin halyard forward so 1 >> person is able to hoist/dowse with the spin sock. >> >> Calypso’s full size spin, even in a ATN sock is a hand full in TWS above 15. >> Both hoisting and dropping, in the sock, is easier on a run. Avoid either >> on a reach. Early in our double-handed racing I got a bit too fancy with my >> leeward mark rounding tactics and was nearly dragged off the foredeck by the >> sock’s windage. >> >> Back when we had the 36, the cruising A-sym in a sock was easy to handle in >> any conditions that a spinnaker would be needed. Having the halyard forward >> allowed me to hold it in one hand and use the other to wrangle the sock onto >> the foredeck. Both the ATN sock(s) and the cuff that goes over a rolled up >> headsail for the A-sym tack have worked well. For Calypso I wish there had >> been a carbon fiber hoop option back in 1999 when we purchased our sock. >> The large size fiberglass version is a bit heavy. Maybe after I finish >> Calypso’s deck rebuild I will fabricate a carbon hoop at home. >> >> Martin DeYoung >> Calypso >> 1971 C&C 43 >> Seattle >> >> <image001.png> >> >> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave >> Godwin via CnC-List >> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 4:25 PM >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Cc: Dave Godwin >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Lines led forward >> >> These observations bring me back to the realities of halyard/reef management >> with lines led aft versus forward. >> >> “Forward” on larger boats generally means winches mounted on the mast >> in-line with the halyards with appropriate line-stoppers. With this >> configuration, and suitable bracing, reefing the main in rough weather is >> pretty “safe” and in my experience faster and more efficient. >> >> I’m afraid that my 37’ just doesn’t quite make the grade in terms of a >> larger,more stable boat, much that I might wish otherwise. And what I am >> trying to achieve is less clutter in the cockpit which is at odds with >> safety considerations. I have no intention nor do I think if would be very >> feasible to mount winches on my mast. This leaves me with the prospect of >> moving the mechanical advantage away from the mast to a position in the >> middle of the boat. That modification right away eliminates the ability for >> one person to quickly pull in a reef from a single location. >> >> With that in mind, it may devolve down to moving the both the jib halyards >> forward. I don’t race this boat nor will I ever and after the furling jib is >> hoisted the 1st jib halyard is rarely touched unless there is a pressing >> need to adjust luff tension. The 2nd jib halyard remains dormant for the >> season and is reserved for emergency duties. Inside/outside peels are thing >> of the past… >> >> Right now a quick analysis leads to keeping the main halyard, 1st and 2nd >> reefing lines led aft to the cockpit. One winch for the main halyard and one >> for the mainsheet which will reduce the winch farm from four to two. Reefing >> lines led to the “unloaded” main halyard winch after the main has been >> placed in the tack horn and secured by one of several line stoppers. >> >> The question next is what to do about the spinnaker halyard. I can probably >> make a case for it being forward in some configuration given that my wife >> and I will be using a cruising A-sym with a sock and that would only be in >> lightish air. The symmetrical has been retired and most likely the spinnaker >> pole will continue to reside in the rafters of my shed. >> >> Much as I keep thinking about moving back to winch farms on the deck, that >> is an artifact from the old IOR/Tonner days with lot’s of young agile crew. >> >> I dunno, clearly it’s still a moving target for me. More crumpled up pieces >> of paper with deck layout designs in the trash can. >> >> Cheers, >> Dave Godwin >> 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin >> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay >> Ronin’s Overdue Refit >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom >> of page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom > of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >
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