> The question next is what to do about the spinnaker halyard. I can probably 
> make a case for it being forward in some configuration given that my wife and 
> I will be using a cruising A-sym with a sock and that would only be in 
> lightish air.

On Calypso and our last boat (a C&C 36) we had the spin halyard forward so 1 
person is able to hoist/dowse with the spin sock.

Calypso’s full size spin, even in a ATN sock is a hand full in TWS above 15.  
Both hoisting and dropping, in the sock, is easier on a run.  Avoid either on a 
reach.  Early in our double-handed racing I got a bit too fancy with my leeward 
mark rounding tactics and was nearly dragged off the foredeck by the sock’s 
windage.

Back when we had the 36, the cruising A-sym in a sock was easy to handle in any 
conditions that a spinnaker would be needed.  Having the halyard forward 
allowed me to hold it in one hand and use the other to wrangle the sock onto 
the foredeck.  Both the ATN sock(s) and the cuff that goes over a rolled up 
headsail for the A-sym tack have worked well.  For Calypso I wish there had 
been a carbon fiber hoop option back in 1999 when we purchased our sock.  The 
large size fiberglass version is a bit heavy.  Maybe after I finish Calypso’s 
deck rebuild I will fabricate a carbon hoop at home.

Martin DeYoung
Calypso
1971 C&C 43
Seattle

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave Godwin 
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Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 4:25 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Dave Godwin
Subject: Re: Stus-List Lines led forward

These observations bring me back to the realities of halyard/reef management 
with lines led aft versus forward.

“Forward” on larger boats generally means winches mounted on the mast in-line 
with the halyards with appropriate line-stoppers. With this configuration, and 
suitable bracing, reefing the main in rough weather is pretty “safe” and in my 
experience faster and more efficient.

I’m afraid that my 37’ just doesn’t quite make the grade in terms of a 
larger,more stable boat, much that I might wish otherwise. And what I am trying 
to achieve is less clutter in the cockpit which is at odds with safety 
considerations. I have no intention nor do I think if would be very feasible to 
mount winches on my mast. This leaves me with the prospect of moving the 
mechanical advantage away from the mast to a position in the middle of the 
boat. That modification right away eliminates the ability for one person to 
quickly pull in a reef from a single location.

With that in mind, it may devolve down to moving the both the jib halyards 
forward. I don’t race this boat nor will I ever and after the furling jib is 
hoisted the 1st jib halyard is rarely touched unless there is a pressing need 
to adjust luff tension. The 2nd jib halyard remains dormant for the season and 
is reserved for emergency duties. Inside/outside peels are thing of the past…

Right now a quick analysis leads to keeping the main halyard, 1st and 2nd 
reefing lines led aft to the cockpit. One winch for the main halyard and one 
for the mainsheet which will reduce the winch farm from four to two. Reefing 
lines led to the “unloaded” main halyard winch after the main has been placed 
in the tack horn and secured by one of several line stoppers.

The question next is what to do about the spinnaker halyard. I can probably 
make a case for it being forward in some configuration given that my wife and I 
will be using a cruising A-sym with a sock and that would only be in lightish 
air. The symmetrical has been retired and most likely the spinnaker pole will 
continue to reside in the rafters of my shed.

Much as I keep thinking about moving back to winch farms on the deck, that is 
an artifact from the old IOR/Tonner days with lot’s of young agile crew.

I dunno, clearly it’s still a moving target for me. More crumpled up pieces of 
paper with deck layout designs in the trash can.

Cheers,
Dave Godwin
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit<http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/>
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