All,
I’m a proud owner as well and, like Josh, the Enterprise has gotten me
through some bad conditions without a single sign of stress.
As to the thing that got this all started off, it sounds like, based on
what you wrote, that it’s a little high priced. At the Rendezvous last week,
Dennis was telling me how he and his wife saw one in pristine condition for
$75K. I would suggest making an offer in the 65K range subject to survey. Your
broker should help you with that.
As for headsail size, I started out with a #1 and found a #2 to be
better, especially when it kicks up over 12-15. The boat is fast, easy to
handle and joy to both cruise and beer-can race. I’ve had mine for 9+ years now
and very happy with her.
All the best,
Edd
Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
On Sep 26, 2014, at 4:53 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:
> Mine has gotten me through some pretty deep crap. No problems. Proud owner.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
> On Sep 26, 2014 1:38 AM, "Us via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Considering all of the other production boats on the market and knowing the
> way these boats are built in comparison (owned 2, sailed/raced on 4), I am
> wondering what your frame of reference is. Regardless and fortunate for us,
> these boats were maintained and without "issues".
>
> Sorry for your loss.
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Sep 26, 2014, at 12:37 AM, Michael Cotton <mpc51...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> These are beautiful fast boats but very poorly constructed. Backstay chain
>> plates are a known weak point . The Tabling from hull to bulkhead is spotty.
>> Owned one - never again.
>> Michael Cotton
>> Ex 37+ c/b owner
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, September 25, 2014 10:27 PM, Us via CnC-List
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Good evening all. We looked at this boat during our search back in 2011. The
>> dealer purchased this boat awhile back and they have had it on the hard
>> uncovered for awhile. We found a surveyor in Michigan we used on several C&C
>> boats in the Great Lakes before we found Obsession and he was nice enough to
>> take an informal look at it and we were told the balsa panels in the hull
>> were dry. At that time the cabin sole was fine. Sorry to hear it has
>> deteriorated.
>>
>> I would go for a survey, the boat has been sitting for quite awhile at some
>> point the dealership will need to budge.
>>
>> Joanne
>> S/V Obsession
>> C&C 37/40+
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Sep 25, 2014, at 11:21 PM, Neil Gallagher via CnC-List
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> David,
>>
>> Let me address one issue - the teak and holly cabin sole on my boat had the
>> identical issue as this boat you're considering, it had sat on the ground
>> for some time with water above the sole (fortunately below the A4 front
>> crankshaft "seal"...). This spring I finally addressed it by using a paint
>> stripper to remove what was left of the varnish, hit with an orbital sander
>> w/60 grit and took off all the faded wood - total thickness is 3/8" so not
>> big deal - and refinished it. It came out beautifully, if I may so myself.
>> That item shouldn't be a show stopper, just a little elbow grease.
>>
>> Neil Gallagher
>> Weatherly, 35-1
>> Glen Cove, NY
>>
>>
>> On 9/25/2014 7:37 PM, David Roberts via CnC-List wrote:
>>
>>
>> I have posted about this boat a few times to this list a got great feedback,
>> so here I go again. I am looking at a 1989 C&C 37/40 +; 7.25’ draft; two
>> spreader, so we are talking about the cruiser not XL or R, I am thinking
>> still fast. Any how the boat needs new upholstery, all new running rigging,
>> the traveler is stiff even though there is no load on it (mast is down.) I
>> have not had a chance to look at the sails yet but the description list
>> them as:
>> Main (Sobstad, Dacron,) Good Condition
>> #3 Jib(North, Dacron)Like New
>> #2 Jib(Sobstad, Dacron) Good Condition
>> #2 Jib (North, Dacron) Excellent Condition
>> Cruising spinnaker with sock (North, Nylon) Good Condition
>> So I am thinking I may have to replace the Main soon, there is no mention of
>> a #1, Is that normal not to have a #1 on this boat?
>>
>> The boat has not been in the water for 7 years. The deck and hull seem to
>> show normal wear as to what I would expect for a 26 yr old boat. The engine
>> looks like it may have been overheated at some point. The teak and holly
>> flooring in the salon area has been refinished and my understanding is that
>> the boat was not covered the first year it was on the hard at the dealer and
>> it filled the bilge and beyond with water and ruined the floors. So maybe I
>> should be concerned with the hull If it froze. There are a large number of
>> little repairs that need attention. Lastly the stern looks like it has been
>> bumped a number of times so that rear edge needs repair.
>>
>> I have been watching this boat for 2 years now, just as I started a new
>> business so buying a boat was out of the question four years ago. I have
>> been sure that someone would come along and buy it. Once they move the boat
>> inside to buff it out and give a good cleaning; made a repair or two, when I
>> saw it was gone my heart dropped. I later found out that they did not sell
>> it. Now that the business is coming along and we can make the payment I am
>> wondering why it has not sold. Maybe it is the 7.25’ draft is an issue on
>> Lake Michigan we are up 18’ this year but the past 10 years we have been
>> trending down. There are a lot of smaller harbors you can’t get in with that
>> draft. That is not a problem for hardcore racers. They don’t go to those
>> harbors, but I don’t think they would be interested in the Std rig. We race
>> beer can, a few port to ports, and cruise.
>>
>> They are asking $79K but I don’t think that is anywhere close to a good
>> number. I have been in my current boat for 15 years so it has been some time
>> sense I have been in the buyers chair. Do I get the survey first, or make an
>> offer and if it is accepted then get the survey. But how do I determine a
>> value without the survey?
>>
>> I am interested in what others have paid recently for the same model and
>> what condition it was in. I am try to come to a fair offer.
>>
>> David Roberts
>> (224) 280-6217
>> ddr1...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
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