Mine has gotten me through some pretty deep crap.  No problems.  Proud
owner.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Sep 26, 2014 1:38 AM, "Us via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Considering all of the other production boats on the market and knowing
> the way these boats are built in comparison (owned 2, sailed/raced on 4), I
> am wondering what your frame of reference is. Regardless and fortunate  for
> us, these boats were maintained and without "issues".
>
> Sorry for your loss.
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Sep 26, 2014, at 12:37 AM, Michael Cotton <mpc51...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> These are beautiful fast boats but very poorly constructed. Backstay chain
> plates are a known weak point . The Tabling from hull to bulkhead is
> spotty. Owned one - never again.
> Michael Cotton
> Ex 37+ c/b owner
>
>
>   On Thursday, September 25, 2014 10:27 PM, Us via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
> Good evening all. We looked at this boat during our search back in 2011.
> The dealer purchased this boat awhile back and they have had it on the hard
> uncovered for awhile. We found a surveyor in Michigan we used on several
> C&C boats in the Great Lakes before we found Obsession and he was nice
> enough to take an informal look at it and we were told the balsa panels in
> the hull were dry. At that time the cabin sole was fine. Sorry to hear it
> has deteriorated.
>
> I would go for a survey, the boat has been sitting for quite awhile at
> some point the dealership will need to budge.
>
> Joanne
> S/V Obsession
> C&C 37/40+
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Sep 25, 2014, at 11:21 PM, Neil Gallagher via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>  David,
>
> Let me address one issue - the teak and holly cabin sole on my boat had
> the identical issue as this boat you're considering, it had sat on the
> ground for some time with water above the sole (fortunately below the A4
> front crankshaft "seal"...).  This spring I finally addressed it by using a
> paint stripper to remove what was left of the varnish, hit with an orbital
> sander w/60 grit and took off all the faded wood - total thickness is 3/8"
> so not big deal - and refinished it.  It came out beautifully, if I may so
> myself.  That item shouldn't be a show stopper, just a little elbow grease.
>
> Neil Gallagher
> Weatherly, 35-1
> Glen Cove, NY
>
>
> On 9/25/2014 7:37 PM, David Roberts via CnC-List wrote:
>
>
> I have posted about this boat a few times to this list a got great
> feedback, so here I go again. I am looking at a 1989 C&C 37/40 +; 7.25'
> draft; two spreader, so we are talking about the cruiser not XL or R, I am
> thinking still fast. Any how the boat needs new upholstery, all new running
> rigging, the traveler is stiff even though there is no load on it (mast is
> down.) I have not had a chance to look at the sails yet but the description
> list  them as:
> Main (Sobstad, Dacron,) Good Condition
> #3 Jib(North, Dacron)Like New
> #2 Jib(Sobstad, Dacron) Good Condition
> #2 Jib (North, Dacron) Excellent Condition
> Cruising spinnaker with sock (North, Nylon) Good Condition
> So I am thinking I may have to replace the Main soon, there is no mention
> of a #1, Is that normal not to have a #1 on this boat?
>
> The boat has not been in the water for 7 years. The deck and hull seem to
> show normal wear as to what I would expect for a 26 yr old boat. The engine
> looks like it may have been overheated at some point. The teak and holly
> flooring in the salon area has been refinished and my understanding is that
> the boat was not covered the first year it was on the hard at the dealer
> and it filled the bilge and beyond with water and ruined the floors. So
> maybe I should be concerned with the hull If it froze. There are a large
> number of little repairs that need attention. Lastly the stern looks like
> it has been bumped a number of times so that rear edge needs repair.
>
> I have been watching this boat for 2 years now, just as I started a new
> business so buying a boat was out of the question four years ago. I have
> been sure that someone would come along and buy it. Once they move the boat
> inside to buff it out and give a good cleaning; made a repair or two, when
> I saw it was gone my heart dropped. I later found out that they did not
> sell it. Now that the business is coming along and we can make the payment
> I am wondering why it has not sold. Maybe it is the 7.25' draft is an issue
> on Lake Michigan we are up 18' this year but the past 10 years we have been
> trending down. There are a lot of smaller harbors you can't get in with
> that draft. That is not a problem for hardcore racers. They don't go to
> those harbors, but I don't think they would be interested in the Std rig.
> We race beer can, a few port to ports, and cruise.
>
> They are asking $79K but I don't think that is anywhere close to a good
> number. I have been in my current boat for 15 years so it has been some
> time sense I have been in the buyers chair. Do I get the survey first, or
> make an offer and if it is accepted then get the survey. But how do I
> determine a value without the survey?
>
> I am interested in what others have paid recently for the same model and
> what condition it was in. I am try to come to a fair offer.
>
> David Roberts
> (224) 280-6217
> ddr1...@gmail.com
>
>
>
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