These are beautiful fast boats but very poorly constructed. Backstay chain
plates are a known weak point . The Tabling from hull to bulkhead is spotty.
Owned one - never again.
Michael Cotton
Ex 37+ c/b owner
On Thursday, September 25, 2014 10:27 PM, Us via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Good evening all. We looked at this boat during our search back in 2011. The
dealer purchased this boat awhile back and they have had it on the hard
uncovered for awhile. We found a surveyor in Michigan we used on several C&C
boats in the Great Lakes before we found Obsession and he was nice enough to
take an informal look at it and we were told the balsa panels in the hull were
dry. At that time the cabin sole was fine. Sorry to hear it has deteriorated.
I would go for a survey, the boat has been sitting for quite awhile at some
point the dealership will need to budge.
Joanne
S/V Obsession
C&C 37/40+
Sent from my iPad
On Sep 25, 2014, at 11:21 PM, Neil Gallagher via CnC-List
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David,
Let me address one issue - the teak and holly cabin sole on my boat
had the identical issue as this boat you're considering, it had sat
on the ground for some time with water above the sole (fortunately
below the A4 front crankshaft "seal"...). This spring I finally
addressed it by using a paint stripper to remove what was left of
the varnish, hit with an orbital sander w/60 grit and took off all
the faded wood - total thickness is 3/8" so not big deal - and
refinished it. It came out beautifully, if I may so myself. That
item shouldn't be a show stopper, just a little elbow grease.
Neil Gallagher
Weatherly, 35-1
Glen Cove, NY
On 9/25/2014 7:37 PM, David Roberts via CnC-List wrote:
I have posted about this boat a few times to this list a got great feedback, so
here I go again. I am looking at a 1989 C&C 37/40 +; 7.25’ draft; two spreader,
so we are talking about the cruiser not XL or R, I am thinking still fast. Any
how the boat needs new upholstery, all new running rigging, the traveler is
stiff even though there is no load on it (mast is down.) I have not had a
chance to look at the sails yet but the description list them as:
Main (Sobstad, Dacron,) Good Condition
#3 Jib(North, Dacron)Like New
#2 Jib(Sobstad, Dacron) Good Condition
#2 Jib (North, Dacron) Excellent Condition
Cruising spinnaker with sock (North, Nylon) Good Condition
So I am thinking I may have to replace the Main soon, there is no mention of a
#1, Is that normal not to have a #1 on this boat?
The boat has not been in the water for 7 years. The deck and hull seem to show
normal wear as to what I would expect for a 26 yr old boat. The engine looks
like it may have been overheated at some point. The teak and holly flooring in
the salon area has been refinished and my understanding is that the boat was
not covered the first year it was on the hard at the dealer and it filled the
bilge and beyond with water and ruined the floors. So maybe I should be
concerned with the hull If it froze. There are a large number of little repairs
that need attention. Lastly the stern looks like it has been bumped a number of
times so that rear edge needs repair.
I have been watching this boat for 2 years now, just as I started a new
business so buying a boat was out of the question four years ago. I have been
sure that someone would come along and buy it. Once they move the boat inside
to buff it out and give a good cleaning; made a repair or two, when I saw it
was gone my heart dropped. I later found out that they did not sell it. Now
that the business is coming along and we can make the payment I am wondering
why it has not sold. Maybe it is the 7.25’ draft is an issue on Lake Michigan
we are up 18’ this year but the past 10 years we have been trending down. There
are a lot of smaller harbors you can’t get in with that draft. That is not a
problem for hardcore racers. They don’t go to those harbors, but I don’t think
they would be interested in the Std rig. We race beer can, a few port to ports,
and cruise.
They are asking $79K but I don’t think that is anywhere close to a good number.
I have been in my current boat for 15 years so it has been some time sense I
have been in the buyers chair. Do I get the survey first, or make an offer and
if it is accepted then get the survey. But how do I determine a value without
the survey?
I am interested in what others have paid recently for the same model and what
condition it was in. I am try to come to a fair offer.
David Roberts
(224) 280-6217
ddr1...@gmail.com
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