We just bought our 1989 C&C 37+ CB this summer from South Florida. She was
in beautiful condition and a thorough survey by a C&C experienced surveyor
found no major issues. Our electronics are fairly new and all systems are
working well. Our sail inventory is good: 2 year old main, older but decent
shape laminate 155, good condition dacron 135, worn out dacron 110,
excellent symmetrical spinnaker, brand new North asymmetrical with ATN sock
and never used ATN storm sail with cuff for furled sail. While the engine
is original Universal M35, it has been well maintained and runs well. The
canvas on the boat included navy sunbrella covers for everything (including
a flat screen TV in salon) and a dodger with custom frame and bimini. Kato
davits and an outboard hoist are mounted at the stern and the purchase
included a 10' Caribe dinghy with 8hp Johnson motor.

While we paid a little more than many of the other 37+ listed, $92,500, we
wanted the CB version for Mobile Bay where we we spend most of our time
club racing with the occasional longer race along the upper Gulf Coast or
possibly to Mexico. We have been "practicing" in our club Sunday races
since we brought her back in July (that was a fun trip too!). We raced our
first local regatta last weekend and crossed the line 5th out of 38 boats.
It should be noted that about half of those boats raced spinnaker - we did
not. In fact, we didn't even bother to take down our dodger or bimini this
time (taking down the bimini requires disassembly to get it off around the
backstay) nor did we remove any of "extra gear" down below. We used the #2
and had a crew of 6 - 4 actually crewed, 1 took a nap and 1 keep beer and
sandwiches available to all. Not bad for our first race. I expect that,
when we decide to get a little more serious, we could be polishing a lot of
silver! This is a fast boat. We are very happy with the layout,
construction and performance of our new baby.

It doesn't sound like the one you are looking at is in all that great of
shape but not that bad either. Draft was very important to us but so was
condition. We purchased a fixer-upper for the last boat and never quite
found the time to do all the things we were going to. It had classic lines,
raced well and was reliable but never was beautiful. Think about your
available funds and time when you are making your decision. If you have the
time and money to spend bringing this one back you will have a great boat.
If you want to think about ones closer to where they should be:

we looked at this one in St. Pete (WK with 5'11" draft)
http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1989-C%26amp%3BC-37-102034453
A real deal could be had here.

We also saw another CB on our delivery trip. It was, I think, a 93 37+ CB
located in Factory Bay Marina, Marco Island, FL. It isn't currently listed
but owner let us look at it with the couple with us on our trip. Not as
clean but still good shape. Worth talking to him if you are interested in
the CB model.

Good luck whichever way you go - the 37+ is a fantastic boat and you will
really enjoy it!


Tracy Hirsh
Ogogpogo   1989 C&C 37+ CB
Fairhope, AL


On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 6:37 PM, David Roberts via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

>
>
> I have posted about this boat a few times to this list a got great
> feedback, so here I go again. I am looking at a 1989 C&C 37/40 +; 7.25’
> draft; two spreader, so we are talking about the cruiser not XL or R, I am
> thinking still fast. Any how the boat needs new upholstery, all new running
> rigging, the traveler is stiff even though there is no load on it (mast is
> down.) I have not had a chance to look at the sails yet but the description
> list  them as:
>
> Main (Sobstad, Dacron,) Good Condition
> #3 Jib(North, Dacron)Like New
> #2 Jib(Sobstad, Dacron) Good Condition
> #2 Jib (North, Dacron) Excellent Condition
> Cruising spinnaker with sock (North, Nylon) Good Condition
>
> So I am thinking I may have to replace the Main soon, there is no mention
> of a #1, Is that normal not to have a #1 on this boat?
>
>
>
> The boat has not been in the water for 7 years. The deck and hull seem to
> show normal wear as to what I would expect for a 26 yr old boat. The engine
> looks like it may have been overheated at some point. The teak and holly
> flooring in the salon area has been refinished and my understanding is that
> the boat was not covered the first year it was on the hard at the dealer
> and it filled the bilge and beyond with water and ruined the floors. So
> maybe I should be concerned with the hull If it froze. There are a large
> number of little repairs that need attention. Lastly the stern looks like
> it has been bumped a number of times so that rear edge needs repair.
>
>
>
> I have been watching this boat for 2 years now, just as I started a new
> business so buying a boat was out of the question four years ago. I have
> been sure that someone would come along and buy it. Once they move the boat
> inside to buff it out and give a good cleaning; made a repair or two, when
> I saw it was gone my heart dropped. I later found out that they did not
> sell it. Now that the business is coming along and we can make the payment
> I am wondering why it has not sold. Maybe it is the 7.25’ draft is an issue
> on Lake Michigan we are up 18’ this year but the past 10 years we have been
> trending down. There are a lot of smaller harbors you can’t get in with
> that draft. That is not a problem for hardcore racers. They don’t go to
> those harbors, but I don’t think they would be interested in the Std rig.
> We race beer can, a few port to ports, and cruise.
>
>
>
> They are asking $79K but I don’t think that is anywhere close to a good
> number. I have been in my current boat for 15 years so it has been some
> time sense I have been in the buyers chair. Do I get the survey first, or
> make an offer and if it is accepted then get the survey. But how do I
> determine a value without the survey?
>
>
>
> I am interested in what others have paid recently for the same model and
> what condition it was in. I am try to come to a fair offer.
>
>
>
> David Roberts
>
> (224) 280-6217
>
> ddr1...@gmail.com
>
>
>
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