Considering all of the other production boats on the market and knowing the way these boats are built in comparison (owned 2, sailed/raced on 4), I am wondering what your frame of reference is. Regardless and fortunate for us, these boats were maintained and without "issues".
Sorry for your loss. Sent from my iPad > On Sep 26, 2014, at 12:37 AM, Michael Cotton <mpc51...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > These are beautiful fast boats but very poorly constructed. Backstay chain > plates are a known weak point . The Tabling from hull to bulkhead is spotty. > Owned one - never again. > Michael Cotton > Ex 37+ c/b owner > > > On Thursday, September 25, 2014 10:27 PM, Us via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > > Good evening all. We looked at this boat during our search back in 2011. The > dealer purchased this boat awhile back and they have had it on the hard > uncovered for awhile. We found a surveyor in Michigan we used on several C&C > boats in the Great Lakes before we found Obsession and he was nice enough to > take an informal look at it and we were told the balsa panels in the hull > were dry. At that time the cabin sole was fine. Sorry to hear it has > deteriorated. > > I would go for a survey, the boat has been sitting for quite awhile at some > point the dealership will need to budge. > > Joanne > S/V Obsession > C&C 37/40+ > > > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Sep 25, 2014, at 11:21 PM, Neil Gallagher via CnC-List >> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> > > > David, > > Let me address one issue - the teak and holly cabin sole on my boat had the > identical issue as this boat you're considering, it had sat on the ground for > some time with water above the sole (fortunately below the A4 front > crankshaft "seal"...). This spring I finally addressed it by using a paint > stripper to remove what was left of the varnish, hit with an orbital sander > w/60 grit and took off all the faded wood - total thickness is 3/8" so not > big deal - and refinished it. It came out beautifully, if I may so myself. > That item shouldn't be a show stopper, just a little elbow grease. > > Neil Gallagher > Weatherly, 35-1 > Glen Cove, NY > > >> On 9/25/2014 7:37 PM, David Roberts via CnC-List wrote: > > > I have posted about this boat a few times to this list a got great feedback, > so here I go again. I am looking at a 1989 C&C 37/40 +; 7.25’ draft; two > spreader, so we are talking about the cruiser not XL or R, I am thinking > still fast. Any how the boat needs new upholstery, all new running rigging, > the traveler is stiff even though there is no load on it (mast is down.) I > have not had a chance to look at the sails yet but the description list them > as: > Main (Sobstad, Dacron,) Good Condition > #3 Jib(North, Dacron)Like New > #2 Jib(Sobstad, Dacron) Good Condition > #2 Jib (North, Dacron) Excellent Condition > Cruising spinnaker with sock (North, Nylon) Good Condition > So I am thinking I may have to replace the Main soon, there is no mention of > a #1, Is that normal not to have a #1 on this boat? > > The boat has not been in the water for 7 years. The deck and hull seem to > show normal wear as to what I would expect for a 26 yr old boat. The engine > looks like it may have been overheated at some point. The teak and holly > flooring in the salon area has been refinished and my understanding is that > the boat was not covered the first year it was on the hard at the dealer and > it filled the bilge and beyond with water and ruined the floors. So maybe I > should be concerned with the hull If it froze. There are a large number of > little repairs that need attention. Lastly the stern looks like it has been > bumped a number of times so that rear edge needs repair. > > I have been watching this boat for 2 years now, just as I started a new > business so buying a boat was out of the question four years ago. I have been > sure that someone would come along and buy it. Once they move the boat inside > to buff it out and give a good cleaning; made a repair or two, when I saw it > was gone my heart dropped. I later found out that they did not sell it. Now > that the business is coming along and we can make the payment I am wondering > why it has not sold. Maybe it is the 7.25’ draft is an issue on Lake Michigan > we are up 18’ this year but the past 10 years we have been trending down. > There are a lot of smaller harbors you can’t get in with that draft. That is > not a problem for hardcore racers. They don’t go to those harbors, but I > don’t think they would be interested in the Std rig. We race beer can, a few > port to ports, and cruise. > > They are asking $79K but I don’t think that is anywhere close to a good > number. I have been in my current boat for 15 years so it has been some time > sense I have been in the buyers chair. Do I get the survey first, or make an > offer and if it is accepted then get the survey. But how do I determine a > value without the survey? > > I am interested in what others have paid recently for the same model and what > condition it was in. I am try to come to a fair offer. > > David Roberts > (224) 280-6217 > ddr1...@gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > >
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