What Ches Bay has done is assign a non-spin rating for boats (which are rated with a spinnaker) and are racing without one (like at frostbites or in a non-spinnaker fleet).
The only time the rating is different is when the spinnaker rating takes into account some non-normal factor, such as the J-24 I race on at times, which has a masthead chute. It is the standard J-24 rating of 171 without the spinnaker because the bigger spinnaker is not being used, and 165 with the chute. Similar, a friend has a C&C 115, which rates 75 with spinnaker (longer than standard pole) and 78 without. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Hoyt, Mike To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 8:44 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review Explain how non spin and spin ratings are the same? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jake Brodersen Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 10:00 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review Tim, I have a base rating of 123, which I think we can sail to pretty well in non-spin. Our boat has the same rating for spin and non-spin. For comparison, the J30 is rated at 141 here. When we sail with the spin fleet we have worked our way into the middle of the pack, which is about where I expect to be, based on our experience. The J30 keeps pace with us going upwind. We tend to do better going downwind. We do have some good local talent that we sail against, including a J30 national one-design champion. Most of our equipment is up to par, although both our .5 oz. and .75 oz. chutes are over 15 years old. They are in need of replacement, but still hold a pretty good shape. It's just the material is no longer as crisp as it once was. What we really like is the kick ass performance of the boat in the non-spin fleet. The boat is tough to beat in light air and we have plenty of that on the Chesapeake. Jake Jake Brodersen C&C 35 Mk-III Midnight Mistress Hampton VA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tim Goodyear Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 8:55 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Handicap review Eastern Connecticut Sailing Association is planning to review the C&C 35-3 PHRF handicap on March 26th. I've been invited to present our case with the owner of the only other 35-3 racing in the area. 35-3 owners (and others), what are your ratings (spinnaker) and how do they compare, and how are your results, against boats such as those below that we typically race against (I added a couple of other C&C's too)? The ECSA racing area (Long Island Sound) is predominantly light air. Thanks, Tim Soverel 33 89 C&C 99 98 Evelyn 32-2 99 Express 34 99 X372 100 Frers 33 108 J/29 MHOB 114 C&C 38-3 115 C&C 35-3 117 Santana 30-30 120 C&C 36 132 J/30 135 C&C 34 144 C&C 33 149 C&C 30-1 168 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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