Hi Chuck, if you are ever in or through my area you have an open invitation to join me for a sail anytime. Anytime the lake isn't covered by 4 feet of ice that is. Yes my mark V is the deep draft variety.
Brent Sent from my iPod On 2013-01-06, at 12:26 AM, Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net> wrote: > Hi Brent, > Enjoyed your response. > I'd much rather have a shoal draft C&C 27 MkV on a trailer, than a MacGregor > whatever the cost. The C&C 27 MkV is a beautiful boat to my eye. I think > you have the deeper fixed keel, but I enjoy your comments and I would enjoy > crewing for you in a race, if possible. > > Chuck > Resolute > 1990 C&C 34R > Atlantic City, NJ > From: "Brent Driedger" <bren...@highspeedcrow.ca> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 12:56:13 AM > Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat beauty > > This has been an interesting thread as I recently had this conversation with > friends in Vancouver. They mentioned to me that they were interested in a M26 > and wanted my opinion on the matter. I explained to them that its a boat that > has a very specific niche and its limitations need to be understood and > respected. I told them if they want to trailer it to nearby lakes for a > weekend or quick decision day sail it would be an ok choice. I also cautioned > them about ever taking it offshore. I said that its really a boat that > doesn't know what it wants to be and as a result it does neither task well > and in inexperienced hands in the wrong conditions they can be very > dangerous. That statement is true of any boat but I feel the older C&Cs will > likely be more forgiving when a novice gets into weather that's over their > heads. > > I followed up with some examples of older boats that may be a little less > convenient to set up quickly but when the wind starts blowing over 35 knots > I'd sooner be in ANY sized overbuilt C&C, Grampion, CS, O'day or Tanzer than > have to rely on a 60 hp engine to get me back to safety. > > The art of sailing by itself drives good seamanship and self sufficiency. > M26s do not encourage this. > > As for the argument on pretty, well it's my own opinion that the older M26's > prior to becoming bastardized motor boats were actually somewhat pretty. They > definitely mangled the lines to make it work with large outboard. > > Build quality, I have no opinion on that but the rig certainly looks wimpy > compared to the telephone poles that stick up from our decks. Even my old > Bruce Kirby designed DS22 had a more robust rig and might I add was a very > pretty boat. > > Brent Driedger > C&C 27V > Lake Winnipeg > > Sent from my iPod > > On 2013-01-05, at 10:34 PM, Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net> wrote: > > One man's opinion of beauty can vary widely from anothers. > > Olin Stephens drew nice lines early on. Dorade, Bolero, etc. Later he made > a statement something like, "A pretty boat is a fast boat." I take that to > mean that his customer's values had shifted so that "fast" was more important > than style. Hence, we now have boats with plumb bows with retractable > sprits. Destroyer bows common to C&Cs have a wonderful and practical reserve > buoyancy, that requires flared topsides, which help make the boat drier, but > have shorter waterlines; resulting in less speed for overall length. > > Dennis Conner is a well respected sailor, but also wrote something like the > following in "Comeback", one of his books; "I don't have any affection for a > boat. I don't romanticize it or pat it fondly. I take it sailing and drive > it hard and possibly break something. The best boat is simply a fast > machine, that's all." > > I don't think MacGregors are ugly. They serve a different purpose than C&C. > And there are uglier boats out there. But I do wonder how many seasons they > are kept operating, because the few I see around here are active for a > season, and then put up for sale and sit for years on their trailers. > > Chuck > Resolute > 1990 C&C 34R > Atlantic City, NJ > From: "Russ & Melody" <russ...@telus.net> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2013 8:50:05 PM > Subject: Re: Stus-List Two more boat reviews on the horizon > > Hi Dwight, > > This quote is from a 1983 article . I thought the original came from > Herreshoff but I couldn't find it. > As Bruce Kirby, designer of Canada 1 says, "there is no excuse for an ugly > boat". > It nicely sums my opinion of the Mac 26 and in hindsight I should have > suggested the GOB review belonged in a different magazine, such as Trailer > Sailor. And not contained in something as respectful as Good Old Boat. > > Sadly, there are so many boats out there that I call "boat show boats" > because they seem to be built to a poll on what buyers want in a boat... all > the features, not large and low cost. To satisfy, this necessitates high > freeboard, ugly sheers, no practical stowage and cheap builds. They look okay > to a niaeve buyer at the boat show. > > <insert sound of writer stepping off soapbox> > Cheers, Russ > Sweet 35 mk-1, with a pretty sheerline > > > _______________________________________________ > > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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