Russ, Glen,
I put my switching valve in the same locker as Russ. I think I used a Whale
valve.
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
>________________________________
> From: Russ & Melody <russ...@telus.net>
>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 6:38 PM
>Subject: Re: Stus-List Removing head and holding tank.
>
>
>Hi Glen,
>
>Maybe we should trade...:)
>A much later project, I plan to get rid of the holding tank under the
v-berth and put in a flex-tank located outboard of the toilet, like
Dennis did. And reclaim that valuable stowage area under the v-berth (for
light stuff).
>
>I say much later because it is working now and I am swamped with self
imposed expectations of projects. The hose run to the v-berth does not
give problems. The switching valve is in the port lower locker, same area
and above the thru-hull valves, under the clothes drawers. It is awkward
to turn but not something that is done regularly anyhow. The pumpout
leads out in the forepeak area.
>
> Cheers,
Russ
> Sweet 35 mk-1
>
>
>At 08:48 AM 06/01/2013, you wrote:
>
>
>I'm going to remove the head and
holding tank from my c&c 35 mk I.
>>
>>I have original bladder tank just below the sink counter.
>>
>>I'm planning on moving the holding tank to the v-birth. Tips from
any that have done this on a c&c 35 mk I would be greatly
appreciated.
>>
>>Specifically is there any problem with the added distance between the
holding tank and the head?
>>
>>Sent from my HTC
>>
>>----- Reply message -----
>>From: "Brent Driedger" <bren...@highspeedcrow.ca>
>>To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>>Subject: Stus-List Boat beauty
>>Date: Sun, Jan 6, 2013 9:27 am
>>
>>
>>
>>Hi Chuck, if you are ever in or through my area you have an open
invitation to join me for a sail anytime. Anytime the lake isn't covered
by 4 feet of ice that is. Yes my mark V is the deep draft variety.
>>
>>Brent
>>
>>Sent from my iPod
>>
>>On 2013-01-06, at 12:26 AM, Chuck S
<cscheaf...@comcast.net > wrote:
>>
>>
>>Hi Brent,
>>>Enjoyed your response.
>>>I'd much rather have a shoal draft C&C 27 MkV on a trailer, than a
MacGregor whatever the cost. The C&C 27 MkV is a beautiful boat
to my eye. I think you have the deeper fixed keel, but I enjoy your
comments and I would enjoy crewing for you in a race, if possible.
>>>
>>>Chuck
>>>Resolute
>>>1990 C&C 34R
>>>Atlantic City, NJ
>>>>>>________________________________
>>> From: "Brent Driedger"
<bren...@highspeedcrow.ca >
>>>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>>Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 12:56:13 AM
>>>Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat beauty
>>>
>>>This has been an interesting thread as I recently had this conversation
with friends in Vancouver. They mentioned to me that they were interested
in a M26 and wanted my opinion on the matter. I explained to them that
its a boat that has a very specific niche and its limitations need to be
understood and respected. I told them if they want to trailer it to
nearby lakes for a weekend or quick decision day sail it would be an ok
choice. I also cautioned them about ever taking it offshore. I said that
its really a boat that doesn't know what it wants to be and as a result
it does neither task well and in inexperienced hands in the wrong
conditions they can be very dangerous. That statement is true of any boat
but I feel the older C&Cs will likely be more forgiving when a novice
gets into weather that's over their heads.
>>>
>>>I followed up with some examples of older boats that may be a little less
convenient to set up quickly but when the wind starts blowing over 35
knots I'd sooner be in ANY sized overbuilt C&C, Grampion, CS, O'day
or Tanzer than have to rely on a 60 hp engine to get me back to
safety.
>>>
>>>The art of sailing by itself drives good seamanship and self sufficiency.
M26s do not encourage this.
>>>
>>>As for the argument on pretty, well it's my own opinion that the older
M26's prior to becoming bastardized motor boats were actually somewhat
pretty. They definitely mangled the lines to make it work with large
outboard.
>>>
>>>Build quality, I have no opinion on that but the rig certainly looks
wimpy compared to the telephone poles that stick up from our decks. Even
my old Bruce Kirby designed DS22 had a more robust rig and might I add
was a very pretty boat.
>>>
>>>Brent Driedger
>>>C&C 27V
>>>Lake Winnipeg
>>>
>>>Sent from my iPod
>>>
>>>On 2013-01-05, at 10:34 PM, Chuck S
<cscheaf...@comcast.net > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>One man's opinion of beauty can vary widely from anothers.
>>>
>>>
>>>Olin Stephens drew nice lines early on. Dorade, Bolero,
etc. Later he made a statement something like, "A pretty boat
is a fast boat." I take that to mean that his customer's
values had shifted so that "fast" was more important than
style. Hence, we now have boats with plumb bows with retractable
sprits. Destroyer bows common to C&Cs have a wonderful and
practical reserve buoyancy, that requires flared topsides, which help
make the boat drier, but have shorter waterlines; resulting in less speed
for overall length.
>>>
>>>
>>>Dennis Conner is a well respected sailor, but also wrote something
like the following in "Comeback", one of his books;
"I don't have any affection for a boat. I don't romanticize it
or pat it fondly. I take it sailing and drive it hard and
possibly break something. The best boat is simply a fast machine,
that's all."
>>>
>>>
>>>I don't think MacGregors are ugly. They serve a different
purpose than C&C. And there are uglier boats out there.
But I do wonder how many seasons they are kept operating, because the few
I see around here are active for a season, and then put up for sale and
sit for years on their trailers.
>>>
>>>
>>>Chuck
>>>
>>>Resolute
>>>
>>>1990 C&C 34R
>>>
>>>Atlantic City, NJ
>>>>>>________________________________
>>>
>>>From: "Russ & Melody"
<russ...@telus.net>
>>>
>>>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>>
>>>Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2013 8:50:05 PM
>>>
>>>Subject: Re: Stus-List Two more boat reviews on the
horizon
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi Dwight,
>>>
>>>
>>>This quote is from a 1983 article . I thought the original came from
Herreshoff but I couldn't find it.
>>>As Bruce Kirby, designer of Canada 1 says,
"there is no excuse for an ugly
boat".
>>>It nicely sums my opinion of the Mac 26 and in hindsight I should
have suggested the GOB review belonged in a different magazine, such as
Trailer Sailor. And not contained in something as respectful as Good Old
Boat.
>>>
>>>
>>>Sadly, there are so many boats out there that I call "boat show
boats" because they seem to be built to a poll on what buyers want
in a boat... all the features, not large and low cost. To satisfy, this
necessitates high freeboard, ugly sheers, no practical stowage and cheap
builds. They look okay to a niaeve buyer at the boat show.
>>>
>>>
>>><insert sound of writer stepping off soapbox>
>>>
>>> Cheers, Russ
>>>
>>> Sweet 35 mk-1, with a
pretty sheerline
>>>
>>>
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