Agree Dwight. As you know, everything is relative, and quality costs $$$. Also, it is possible to overbuild quality into a boat, until it becomes unjustifiably expensive for the average person. ie, Swan or even Wally Yachts. It's been my experience that you can have more fun for less money, by not buying too big or too expensive. This leaves more money to have more fun doing other things. Love my C&C, but I like to dream.
Presently, I dream of a cruising version of an all carbon Open 60 running on a broad reach at 18 knots under autopilot, reefed main and genneker, Winds NW at 25 to 40, Atlantic City to Block Island, 10 hrs. Or maybe a Corsair 31, same speed, less physical effort w smaller sails. Just dreaming. It's 36 degrees out and sunny and my beautiful Resolute is sleeping under a tarp, on the hard, 30 minutes away, while I answer email and avoid going out into the cold. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Atlantic City, NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "dwight veinot" <dwightvei...@hfx.eastlink.ca> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 4:52:02 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Two more boat reviews on the horizon Yea Chuck…and dare I say, some of us C&C owners may like to upgrade someday too…like who would among us would refuse a Swan or a Baltic or??? Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck S Sent: January 3, 2013 8:43 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Two more boat reviews on the horizon MacGregors: I can appreciate any boat that gets you excited, and MacGregors have gotten many people onto the water that otherwise never would. Sometimes, price is a decider. I can appreciate the MacGregors and Ventures and other boats out there. I started with a styrafoam sailboard called a Snark, graduated to a Sunfish, to a Cape Dory 22, and spent several years boatless, windsurfing 5 to 6 dys a week, before buying another sitdown sailboat, our present C&C 34R. I got a good buy because of the market, and after 10 years have spent more on slipfees, haulouts and upgrades than the purchase price, but I wouldn't do it any different. Love the boat. Guess it picked me? I just don't think we should bash other brands of sailboats. They may like to upgrade to a C&C someday? Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Atlantic City, NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Risch" <davidrisc...@msn.com> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 6:58:14 PM Subject: Stus-List Two more boat reviews on the horizon When I was 9 my Dad bought a new 1969 Venture 21 and I was so excited you would think it was Christmas. We couldn't sail worth a damn but it didn't matter (damned dealer did not paint the swing keel when the boat was on the trailer...so beyond our sailing ineptitude we were dragging around a 4 foot barnacle carrier...talk about slow!). But...43 years later I am still excited about sailing. Is a V-21 a Mac 26? No. Two different animals. But same idea. We all gotta start somewhere. David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell) > From: sam.c.sal...@gmail.com > Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 16:24:00 -0700 > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: Two more boat reviews on the horizon > > I work part time in the summer for a Macgregor dealer here on Ghost Lake in > Alberta. I set up all the new boats and bolt on all the extras. (and fix them > when they run them up the bank!) > > As Ken says, they really sell well. > > When I'm out on the lake in my C&C 26, by far the most boats out there with > me are Macs. Mac owners may not know what they are doing, but they are > enjoying doing it! > > Wherever I go in the world, I see Macs - everywhere! > Sure they're ugly; Sure they don't sail worth a s#%t; Sure they are badly put > together - but they have probably introduced more people to sailing than > C&C's. > ...and boy are Macgregor owners loyal. Lots upgrade to new Macgregors - we > often sell the same boat 2 or 3 times. > However, you can't have boaty conversations with Mac owners. They don't talk > about outhauls or leech lines (unknown to them). They want to talk about > stainless steel BBQ's and cockpit tables. > Not my idea of a boat, but if it gets people out on the water, how bad can it > be! > > Sam Salter > C&C 26 Liquorice > Ghost Lake Alberta. > (I'm off to the BVI's on the 19th.. 6 guys, 52 foot, brand new Jenneau, > sailing and drinking!) > > On 2013-01-03, at 4:04 PM, Graham Collins <cnclistforw...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > So does heroin. Doesn't make it something to aspire to or respect... > > > > Graham Collins > > Secret Plans > > C&C 35-III #11 > > > > > > Ken Heaton wrote: > >> The Mac 26X does one thing really well. It sells. > >> > >> Ken H. > >> > >> > >> On 3 January 2013 16:05, Frederick G Street <f...@postaudio.net > >> <mailto:f...@postaudio.net>> wrote: > >> > >> Richard -- it's not so much the MacGregor line that I take issue > >> with; it's the 26X in particular. It seems like an attempt to do > >> many things, with the result that it does none of them very well… > >> > >> Fred Street -- Minneapolis > >> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( > >> > >> On Jan 3, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Richard N. 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