And, frankly I get a little envious when I'm sitting in slatting weather, 
reluctant to fire up the vibrator, and see one of those funny looking things 
blasting by at 25 or 30 knots, sails furled and beer cold.....

Gary
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Chuck S 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 7:43 PM
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Two more boat reviews on the horizon


  MacGregors:  I can appreciate any boat that gets you excited, and MacGregors 
have gotten many people onto the water that otherwise never would.  
  Sometimes, price is a decider.  I can appreciate the MacGregors and Ventures 
and other boats out there.  I started with a styrafoam sailboard called a 
Snark, graduated to a Sunfish, to a Cape Dory 22, and spent several years 
boatless, windsurfing 5 to 6 dys a week, before buying another sitdown 
sailboat, our present C&C 34R.  I got a good buy because of the market, and 
after 10 years have spent more on slipfees, haulouts and upgrades than the 
purchase price, but I wouldn't do it any different.  Love the boat.  Guess it 
picked me?

  I just don't think we should bash other brands of sailboats.  They may like 
to upgrade to a C&C someday?   


  Chuck
  Resolute
  1990 C&C 34R
  Atlantic City, NJ


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  From: "David Risch" <davidrisc...@msn.com>
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 6:58:14 PM
  Subject: Stus-List Two more boat reviews on the horizon


  When I was 9 my Dad bought a new 1969 Venture 21 and I was so excited you 
would think it was Christmas.   We couldn't sail worth a damn but it didn't 
matter (damned dealer did not paint the swing keel when the boat was on the 
trailer...so beyond our sailing ineptitude we were dragging around a 4 foot 
barnacle carrier...talk about slow!).  

  But...43 years later I am still excited about sailing.

  Is a  V-21 a Mac 26?   No.   Two different animals.   But same idea.  We all 
gotta start somewhere.       

  David F. Risch
  1981 40-2
  (401) 419-4650 (cell)



  > From: sam.c.sal...@gmail.com
  > Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 16:24:00 -0700
  > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  > Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: Two more boat reviews on the horizon
  > 
  > I work part time in the summer for a Macgregor dealer here on Ghost Lake in 
Alberta. I set up all the new boats and bolt on all the extras. (and fix them 
when they run them up the bank!)
  > 
  > As Ken says, they really sell well.
  > 
  > When I'm out on the lake in my C&C 26, by far the most boats out there with 
me are Macs. Mac owners may not know what they are doing, but they are enjoying 
doing it!
  > 
  > Wherever I go in the world, I see Macs - everywhere!
  > Sure they're ugly; Sure they don't sail worth a s#%t; Sure they are badly 
put together - but they have probably introduced more people to sailing than 
C&C's.
  > ...and boy are Macgregor owners loyal. Lots upgrade to new Macgregors - we 
often sell the same boat 2 or 3 times.
  > However, you can't have boaty conversations with Mac owners. They don't 
talk about outhauls or leech lines (unknown to them). They want to talk about 
stainless steel BBQ's and cockpit tables.
  > Not my idea of a boat, but if it gets people out on the water, how bad can 
it be!
  > 
  > Sam Salter
  > C&C 26 Liquorice
  > Ghost Lake Alberta.
  > (I'm off to the BVI's on the 19th.. 6 guys, 52 foot, brand new Jenneau, 
sailing and drinking!)
  > 
  > On 2013-01-03, at 4:04 PM, Graham Collins <cnclistforw...@hotmail.com> 
wrote:
  > 
  > > So does heroin. Doesn't make it something to aspire to or respect...
  > > 
  > > Graham Collins
  > > Secret Plans
  > > C&C 35-III #11
  > > 
  > > 
  > > Ken Heaton wrote:
  > >> The Mac 26X does one thing really well. It sells.
  > >> 
  > >> Ken H.
  > >> 
  > >> 
  > >> On 3 January 2013 16:05, Frederick G Street <f...@postaudio.net 
<mailto:f...@postaudio.net>> wrote:
  > >> 
  > >> Richard -- it's not so much the MacGregor line that I take issue
  > >> with; it's the 26X in particular. It seems like an attempt to do
  > >> many things, with the result that it does none of them very well…
  > >> 
  > >> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
  > >> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^(
  > >> 
  > >> On Jan 3, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Richard N. Bush <bushma...@aol.com
  > >> <mailto:bushma...@aol.com>> wrote:
  > >> 
  > >>> The major attribute of the MacGregors is that they introduced
  > >>> many people to the world of sailing and I know for a fact that at
  > >>> least one of them eventually became a dedicated C&C owner...
  > >>> (1975 Venture 25 model, long, long ago and far, far away...) 
  > >> 
  > >> 
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