Maybe we need a lawyer? We can ask Chris. He's the dean of the faculty of Law. I've never asked him.
Apple cannot sign a binding contract with a 13 YO and I cannot either. Apple however can sell a puter to a 13 YO and they are in contract and she is not. If she hands it to me and asks me to fix it then I fail to understand how Apple has a contract with me. Next if she D/L's Lion and even if she types in the numbers for my VISA then they still do not have a contract with me. The only law I know which prohibits this is DMCA style laws and Canada has not yet enacted them but they are trying! We don't want it. Besides which the only reason I can think of for me to D/L lion is so she can video edit her school project. And NEXT! The only viruses in the puter that I can think of came from the school board (from Texas) so she can't cut and paste the answer to her geometry questions and lordy on that puter the keyboard quit. I don't have a USB KB. We found a virtual KB and this worked and she got 100% in her geometry. I think apple will not be able to prevail in a court room. I'm happy to go there. I will tell the judge. I only want my 13 YO to be able to type in the answer to her geometry questions. If I have to hack the machine to get H/W that works then so be it! On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 12:49:24PM -0600, Gustin Johnson wrote: > EULAs do not work that way. It does not matter who bought the copy of > OSX, it can *only* be run on Apple hardware, including virtualized > copies. > > You may want to check with a lawyer. I doubt that the 13 buying the > copy does anything of benefit. I suspect that legally, all you are > entitled to do is to return that copy for a refund. It does not > magically get you out of all the contractual obligations that you are > trying to dodge. > > I am not saying that you should not buy an Atom, but I have a real > hate on for that hardware. The performance for that power envelope is > way too low, especially when compared to something Arm based. > > On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:16 PM, <t...@terralogic.net> wrote: > > I'm going to forget an atom. I have a nice eeePC here and like it and > > likely will pick up another since I can get them for like under $150. I > > figure it will make a nice hot spot. Good for the light weight stuff. > > > > But for heavy duty you're right. > > > > I can legally get Lion going. Its quite easy. Apple sold a snow leopard > > to a 13 yo. She can upgrade. No contracts are binding with a minor. I > > have no contract. Not my machine. I won't sign a contract with a 13 yo. > > > > Next when I review what needs to happen? 13 yo is editing video so I guess > > maybe I'm going to have to install some serious hardware. Its not my lion. > > I'm just told there might be a virus in it so they ask me to check it out. > > I'm just the sys admin. I'm low man on the totem pole. > > > > No contracts are binding for like the next 3 years. right? > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 10:44:12AM -0600, Gustin Johnson wrote: > >> If you are running virtual machines you pretty need a modern machine > >> unless you are very patient. As you are looking at small form factor, > >> be aware that Intel Atom based solutions do not have the hardware > >> support that makes VMs practical. While technically you could get > >> something working with para-virtualization, you really do not want to > >> do this. > >> > >> You also cannot run OSX Lion in a VM legally unless your host OS is > >> also Lion running on actual Apple hardware. There are some other > >> licencing constraints with OSX. > >> > >> For small form factor, look at uATX, something like this perhaps: > >> http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-BDL_A83850_F1A75M(ME).aspx > >> > >> For even smaller and lower powered you could try something like this: > >> http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX32502(ME).aspx > >> > >> Dual head is provided by most, even the integrated graphics solutions. > >> Triple head pretty much requires an ATI (and only models with > >> Eyefinity in their description). > >> > >> The multiple keyboards, mice and monitors has been done. In fact > >> there is a local company who does this very thing (Linux based even). > >> > >> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:29 PM, <t...@terralogic.net> wrote: > >> > > >> > I've looked at www.vfxweb.com and see cheap mobo's for like $26 bux with > >> > a cpu. > >> > > >> > What would ppl suggest is a decent small form factor way to go which > >> > would be able to run a virtual machine and in it run say OSX lion? > >> > > >> > I'd likely want to get some other OS's running as well... > >> > > >> > Multi head is necessary. > >> > > >> > One of the CLUG people asked about setting up a server with six (6) KB's > >> > and six (6) mice not including the dead one in my garage and six (6) > >> > heads. > >> > > >> > I believe we can do this! Use USB mice and kb's and a couple PCI cards > >> > like was in the shuttle-X I brought to the meeting. Should be easy. > >> > Next one of our guys said we can output to a monitor via USB and I'd > >> > like to know how to do that! > >> > > >> > I'm not sure this makes sense because a thin client should do this as > >> > well. But who knows. I think the way it should work now is plug the > >> > KB, Mouse etc into a flat panel and plug the network in and plug the > >> > server into the network. Of course the network should be fiber. Fiber > >> > runs so fast that why do we need AGP? > >> > > >> > We should be showing this at install fests. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > If anyone is interested one of my buddies just put in a 128 core machine. > >> > > >> > But they like winders. 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