On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 5:26 AM, Laurent PETIT <laurent.pe...@gmail.com> wrote: > I ackowledge the "visibility" of Counterclockwise is far from being perfect. > > However, I'm currently quite satisfied with the situation, given that : > * "clojure eclipse plugin" in google gives the top position for google > code homepage, and that if you take the time to follow that link (or even > read the extract for the link), you know there's something to look for > there.
Well, it does say "Counterclockwise is an Eclipse plugin helping developers write Clojure code. Installing Counterclockwise and starting testing/developing in clojure is ..." but it also says "counterclockwise - Project Hosting on Google Code" "Project Hosting" suggests "this is where counterclockwise's developers hang out" and it's easy to presume from that context that the introductory text is part of a very brief blurb and not a more substantial body of end-user-oriented text. Someone looking for CCW introductory material, I concede, *is* likely after seeing no other promising Google hit in the top 10 or 20 to go there hoping that that introductory blurb is, if not part of something more substantial of that sort itself, at least the locus of a link or two to such for the benefit of would-be end-users who blunder into the repository's front page. :) > But for sure having a proper domain name would be great, as well as a great > web site with a great graphical design as enclojure has, but I'm not > planning right now to spend time on building / buying this. It's you who manages CCW's web presence then? Huh. > My suggestion would be that, acknowledging that easing the access to IDEs is > good for both Clojure adoption and the IDEs : > > * there is a dedicated "IDEs" in the top right box on clojure.org, > currently pointing to the "master wiki page" on Assembla > * and / or an "IDEs" page in the left menu of clojure.org, with the > content of the "master wiki page" on Assembla (containing links to each > IDE-specific Getting Started instructions) Please do remember though that someone dipping his toes into programming and not already an experienced developer (or even, perhaps, an experienced commercial-software developer with little experience in the open-source world) is liable to be intimidated by any links to assembla, github, and so forth on the general theory that "that leads to source code, bug trackers, developer mailing lists, and other complicated stuff and I just want to download this thing in an executable form and try it out". :) That's after the first couple of times following links to those sites in other situations and being faced with a big developer-central page full of bells and whistles that mostly in turn lead to login prompts rather than something user-friendly to people not looking to work with a source code repository and bug tracker at that time. It seems there's more content at those sites than just such project control panels, and you and I know that, but I am considering the likelihood that part of your desired user base probably does not know that. And in fact newbie programmers are an *important* part of that user base, perhaps the *most* important. > Now that all this is said, I clearly have the intention, eventually, to have > a domain name for Counterclockwise, as well as a decent website. Now just > doesn't feel the right timing to me, given that resources are limited. That's okay. Once again, it is not for my own sake so much as for that of potential new users less knowledgeable about some of these things that I offered these suggestions. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
