Mark,

> On 14 Jul 2020, at 06:52, Mark Tinka <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On 14/Jul/20 04:28, Phil Bedard wrote:
>> The PTX 5000 was the original PTX.  The 1st/2nd generation FPCs didn't have 
>> much FIB capacity, like 128k routes which was well below an Internet table 
>> in 2014.  The 3rd gen is where they started supporting up to 1M+ v4 prefixes.
> 
> Yes, this is what I remember also. But if you look at the PTX1000, you
> don't have that problem from when it went into inception.
> 
> Granted, one could say Juniper made the assumption that most MPLS-based
> networks would run a BGP-free core, and in theory, there were right.

That’s right. That’s also why I didn’t want to claim Juniper was stupid
with the product, more into direction that such naive approach simply 
didn’t work out.

> What they didn't account was that 6PE was one of those "temporary
> becomes permanent" situations.

OTOH, that’s still the vision we’re trying to catch up with, right? Have one,
simple and easy to provision/monitor/troubleshoot/traffic engineer/decomission
protocol, that carries all address families, has unified architecture and
universal interoperability “because of that”.

So, about OpenFlow… ;)

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