On 16/Jul/20 20:48, Phil Bedard wrote:
> To be fair there are many many ASR9K systems out there today which have been 
> in networks for many year.  There is a new generation of cards for those 
> coming out which do not require a chassis swap people will be using for many 
> years to come.

If we wanted to use a purely Ethernet-focused box for our core when we
deployed back in 2014, I'd have gone with the MX960.

The CRS made a lot of sense because we had a need for plenty of
non-Ethernet links, and both the MX and ASR9000 were too expensive on a
per-slot basis.


>    CRS-X I would agree doesn't have the longevity of some of the other 
> platforms.  In the end Cisco builds hardware people ask for, and 
> unfortunately has to retire hardware people no longer want to purchase. 

The CRS-X is neither EoS nor EoL. It can do 400Gbps/slot (even though I
am sure it can do more, but then where do you put the NCS 6000), and has
plenty of room for growth.

My problem with Cisco is their solution to a lot of their products is a
complete swap-out. Making us have to replace a ton of CRS-X's with
ASR9000's so I can get "cheap" 100Gbps ports when our current platform
is nowhere near dying is just silly and opportunistic.

>  
>
> The 8000 series is much less power and higher throughput than a current 
> generation PTX.  An 8202 is around 750W.   As mentioned you can use breakouts 
> but to breakout 4x100G from 400G is going to require changing optics on the 
> other side, 2x100G does not.  The 8000 series and its silicon are going to be 
> around for a long time.  

The lack of 10Gbps support on the 8200's notwithstanding, I just don't
trust Cisco anymore. Boxes come and go with them before they'd have time
to bake in, who knows what they'll come up with next.

Mark.

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