On 7/16/20, 4:37 PM, "Mark Tinka" <[email protected]> wrote:



    On 16/Jul/20 20:48, Phil Bedard wrote:
 > > To be fair there are many many ASR9K systems out there today which have 
 > > been in networks for many year.  There is a new generation of cards for 
 > > those coming out which do not require a chassis swap people will be using 
 > > for many years to come.

>    If we wanted to use a purely Ethernet-focused box for our core when we
>    deployed back in 2014, I'd have gone with the MX960.

>    The CRS made a lot of sense because we had a need for plenty of
>    non-Ethernet links, and both the MX and ASR9000 were too expensive on a
>    per-slot basis.

Fair enough.   Every vendor has gone through their own pain with the older 
midplane systems in having to swap out chassis multiple times to get to higher 
speeds. Thankfully with the newer fabric designs we've eliminated most of that. 
 

    >
    > The 8000 series is much less power and higher throughput than a current 
generation PTX.  An 8202 is around 750W.   As mentioned you can use breakouts 
but to breakout 4x100G from 400G is going to require changing optics on the 
other side, 2x100G does not.  The 8000 series and its silicon are going to be 
around for a long time.  

 >   The lack of 10Gbps support on the 8200's notwithstanding, I just don't
  >  trust Cisco anymore. Boxes come and go with them before they'd have time
 >   to bake in, who knows what they'll come up with next.

Sorry was thinking 400GE to 100GE breakout.  You can certainly do 4x10GE 
breakouts on the various 8000s boxes and line cards.  

Thanks, 
Phil 



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