> On Sep 22, 2023, at 9:30 PM, Martin Bishop 
> <mjd.bis...@emeritus-solutions.com> wrote:
> 
> Paul
> 
> I endorse your point regarding Lattice's gouging.  Support for anything prior 
> to the XO parts now costs a significant premium.  Their XO2 parts are the 
> most useful to this community - free tools and 0.5 mm pitch, e.g. 100p & 144p 
> - not dense but usefully large, 3v3 IO and agricultural assembly.
> 
> The Xilinx free tools no longer have license files, which was how Lattice cut 
> us all off at the pass.  The current Vivado ML Standard Edition (tools to 
> normal people) are free up to the XC7Z030 - which is a fairly serious device. 
>  I have a PDP-11 and space to spare running in the markedly smaller XC7Z010; 
> 16b / no MMU, most of the 45 instruction set.  FPGA are (organically) memory 
> poor - perhaps because the access time is ~3 ns.  I should think you would be 
> in with a chance of fitting the 6600 logic, however on a '30 you have 265 x 4 
> ki by BRAMs = ~1 Mi By, if more is required either a dedicated external 
> memory device or DMA to/fr DRAM would be required.

The 6600 model I'm building is a gate level model, so it is cycle-accurate, but 
also large.  I'm figuring several hundred thousand gates, which makes sense if 
you consider the module count for a 6600.  A large enough FPGA for that seems 
to have enough on-chip memory for both PP and CP memories, leaving only ECS as 
off-chip.  That's helpful because both PP and CP have tightly constrained 
cycles; DRAM would be nearly impossible to make work, though SRAM is doable.

        paul

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