On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 at 22:18, Lynne Bartholomew <
lbartholo...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote:

> Hi, Tiru, Ben, and Éric*
>
> * Éric, please let us know if you approve the change from "could" to
> "MAY".  (We have to get AD approval for any changes related to key words
> from RFC 2119.)
>
> Tiru and Ben, we have updated this document per your notes below.  Quick
> follow-up question:
>
> Because "PvD" stands for "Provisioning Domain", "using DNR and PvD" reads
> as "using DNR and Provisioning Domain", which reads a bit oddly.  Should
> "and PvD" be "and PvDs" or "and a PvD"?
>

Please proceed with "a PvD".


>
> The latest files are posted here.  Please refresh your browser:
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>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9704.pdf
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9704.html
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9704.xml
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9704-diff.html
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9704-rfcdiff.html
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9704-auth48diff.html
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9704-lastdiff.html
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9704-lastrfcdiff.html
>
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9704-xmldiff1.html
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9704-xmldiff2.html
>
> Thank you!
>
> RFC Editor/lb
>
>
> > On Jan 15, 2025, at 7:21 AM, tirumal reddy <kond...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 at 8:42 PM, Ben Schwartz <bem...@meta.com> wrote:
> > > The term "compliant" here seems to imply that the client is adhering
> to a particular specification but it doesn't add meaningful information in
> this context.
> >
> > Without "compliant", I think this sentence is potentially ambiguous as
> to whether we are describing an acceptable behavior or an unacceptable
> behavior.  A simpler and clearer (but more invasive) change would be:
> >
> > NEW:
> >   The client MAY perform ...
> >
> > Sounds good to me.
>
>
> > On Jan 15, 2025, at 7:12 AM, Ben Schwartz <bem...@meta.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The term "compliant" here seems to imply that the client is adhering to
> a particular specification but it doesn't add meaningful information in
> this context.
> >
> > Without "compliant", I think this sentence is potentially ambiguous as
> to whether we are describing an acceptable behavior or an unacceptable
> behavior.  A simpler and clearer (but more invasive) change would be:
> >
> > NEW:
> >  The client MAY perform ...
> >
> > --Ben
>
> > On Jan 15, 2025, at 1:58 AM, tirumal reddy <kond...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > All of the changes look good except for the the following 2 issues:
> >
> > 1.
> >
> >    To ensure that this assumption holds, clients MUST NOT relax the
> >    acceptance rules they would otherwise apply when using this resolver.
> >    For example, if the client would check the Authenticated Data (AD)
> >    bit or validate RRSIGs locally when using this resolver, it must also
> >    do so when resolving TXT records for this purpose.  A compliant
> >    client could perform DNSSEC validation for the verification query
> >    even if it has disabled DNSSEC validation for other DNS queries.
> >
> > Comment>
> >
> > The term "compliant" here seems to imply that the client is adhering to
> a particular specification but it doesn't add meaningful information in
> this context. We are not explicitly talking about compliance with the
> DNSSEC standard, but rather the behavior of the client in a specific
> situation. We are proposing that clients who have disabled DNSSEC
> validation for some reason (e.g, performance) could enable DNSSEC but only
> for the verification query.
> >
> > 2.
> >
> > OLD:
> >    *Steps 1-2*:  The client determines the network's DNS server
> >       (dns.example.net) and PvD ID (pvd.example.com) using DNR and one
> >       of the following: DNR Router Solicitation, DHCPv4, or DHCPv6.
> > NEW:
> >    *Steps 1-2*:  The client determines the network's DNS server
> >     (dns.example.net) and PvD ID (pvd.example.com) using DNR and PvD,
> along with one of
> >     the following: DNR Router Solicitation, DHCPv4, or DHCPv6.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > -Tiru
> >
> > On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 at 22:00, Lynne Bartholomew <
> lbartholo...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote:
> > Hi, Dan and Kevin.
> >
> > Dan, we have updated your contact information per your note below.
> >
> > We have noted both of your approvals on the AUTH48 status page:
> >
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9704
> >
> > The latest files are posted here.  Please refresh your browser:
> >
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9704.txt
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9704.pdf
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9704.html
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9704.xml
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9704-diff.html
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9704-rfcdiff.html
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9704-auth48diff.html
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9704-lastdiff.html
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9704-lastrfcdiff.html
> >
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9704-xmldiff1.html
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9704-xmldiff2.html
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> > RFC Editor/lb
> >
> > > On Jan 14, 2025, at 2:29 AM, Kevin Smith, Vodafone <
> kevin.sm...@vodafone.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Please also mark me as Approved – and thanks to all.
> > > Kevin
> >
> > > On Jan 13, 2025, at 2:45 PM, Dan Wing <danw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > One minor change -- please remove the street address for my contact
> information, as we just closed that building in Santa Clara, so:
> > >
> > > OLD:
> > >    Dan Wing
> > >    Citrix Systems, Inc.
> > >    4988 Great America Pkwy
> > >    Santa Clara, CA 95054
> > >    United States of America
> > >    Email: danw...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > NEW:
> > >    Dan Wing
> > >    Citrix Systems, Inc.
> > >    United States of America
> > >    Email: danw...@gmail.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The existing title page abbreviation for my employer is fine as-is
> ("Citrix").
> > >
> > > With that, please mark me as Approved.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > -d
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Jan 13, 2025, at 10:23 AM, Lynne Bartholomew <
> lbartholo...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi, Ben and Éric.
> > >>
> > >> Ben, we have further updated this document per your note below.
> > >>
> > >> Éric, we have noted your approval for the updates to Section 7 on the
> AUTH48 status page:
> > >>
> > >>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9704
> > >>
> > >> The latest files are posted here.  Please refresh your browser:
> > >>
> > >>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9704.txt
> > >>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9704.pdf
> > >>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9704.html
> > >>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9704.xml
> > >>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9704-diff.html
> > >>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9704-rfcdiff.html
> > >>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9704-auth48diff.html
> > >>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9704-lastdiff.html
> > >>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9704-lastrfcdiff.html
> > >>
> > >>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9704-xmldiff1.html
> > >>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9704-xmldiff2.html
> > >>
> > >> Thank you!
> > >>
> > >> RFC Editor/lb
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On Jan 10, 2025, at 8:24 AM, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <
> evyn...@cisco.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Hello Lynne,
> > >>> The changes in section 7 are indeed borderline between technical and
> editorial, but they respect my view of the IETF/ADD WG consensus. I.e., I
> approve these changes.
> > >>> Regards
> > >>> -éric
> > >>
> > >>> On Jan 10, 2025, at 7:31 AM, Ben Schwartz <bem...@meta.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>> Section 2:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> OLD:
> > >>>>>  Validated Split Horizon:  Indicates that a split-horizon
> > >>>>>     configuration for some name is considered "validated" if the
> > >>>>>     client has confirmed that a parent of that name has authorized
> > >>>>>     this resolver to serve its own responses for that name.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> NEW:
> > >>>>>  Validated Split Horizon:  A split-horizon
> > >>>>>     configuration for some name is considered "validated" if the
> > >>>>>     client has confirmed that a parent of that name has authorized
> > >>>>>     this resolver to serve its own responses for that name.
> > >>>
> > >>>> [rfced]  We added the word "that" in order to keep the
> sentence-fragment style used in all four list items.  Please let us know >
> if you would prefer your complete-sentence style for all four items.
> > >>>
> > >>> Sentence-fragment style is fine, but I find the adjusted text hard
> to parse.  Let's try this change:
> > >>>
> > >>> OLD:
> > >>> A split-horizon configuration that for some name is considered
> "validated" if the client has confirmed that a parent of that name has
> authorized this resolver to serve its own responses for that name.
> > >>>
> > >>> NEW:
> > >>> A split-horizon configuration that is authorized by the parents of
> the affected names and confirmed by the client.
> > >>>
> > >>> --Ben
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
>
>
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