Hi Lynne, all,
One comment about:
CURRENT:
Long lines in examples are wrapped using a single backslash ("\") per
[RFC8792].
I would reinsert back this text that was deleted:
"NOTE: '\' line wrapping per [RFC8792]"
The reasoning is this MUST from 8792:
==
Text content that has been folded as specified by this strategy MUST
adhere to the following structure.
7.1.1. Header
The header is two lines long.
The first line is the following 36-character string; this string MAY
be surrounded by any number of printable characters. This first line
cannot itself be folded.
NOTE: '\' line wrapping per RFC 8792
The second line is an empty line, containing only the end-of-line
character sequence. This line provides visual separation for
readability.
...
==
Thank you.
Cheers,
Med (Doc Shepherd)
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Lynne Bartholomew <lbartholo...@staff.rfc-editor.org>
> Envoyé : jeudi 16 janvier 2025 18:00
> À : tirumal reddy <kond...@gmail.com>; Ben Schwartz
> <bem...@meta.com>; Éric Vyncke <evyn...@cisco.com>
> Cc : Ben Schwartz <bem...@meta.com>; Éric Vyncke
> <evyn...@cisco.com>; Dan Wing <danw...@gmail.com>;
> kevin.sm...@vodafone.com; Ben Schwartz
> <bemasc=40meta....@dmarc.ietf.org>; rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org;
> Ben Schwartz <i...@bemasc.net>; add-...@ietf.org; add-
> cha...@ietf.org; BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET
> <mohamed.boucad...@orange.com>; auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
> Objet : Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9704 <draft-ietf-add-split-horizon-
> authority-14> for your review
>
> Hi, Tiru, Ben, and Éric.
>
> Tiru and Ben, we have further updated this document per your
> notes below. Ben, no miscommunication; apologies for missing the
> change from "A compliant" to "The" earlier.
>
> Éric, yes, we were asking about the last sentence in Section 6.1.
> Apologies for not being clearer. We have noted your renewed
> approval on the AUTH48 status page:
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>
> > On Jan 16, 2025, at 5:51 AM, Ben Schwartz <bem...@meta.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I think there was a small miscommunication here. I think we
> intended the following text:
> >
> > OLD: "A compliant client MAY perform ..."
> > NEW: "The client MAY perform ..."
> >
> > --Ben
>
>
> > On Jan 15, 2025, at 10:25 PM, Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
> <evyn...@cisco.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Lynne,
> > I only find a change in a MAY in section 6.1 s/ Alternatively,
> a client might perform DNSSEC validation/A compliant client MAY
> perform DNSSEC validation/. Is it this one you are asking about ?
> It this is the case, then it is approved.
> > Regards
> > -éric
>
> > On Jan 15, 2025, at 9:57 PM, tirumal reddy <kond...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 at 22:18, Lynne Bartholomew
> <lbartholo...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote:
> >> Hi, Tiru, Ben, and Éric*
> >>
> >> * Éric, please let us know if you approve the change from
> "could" to "MAY". (We have to get AD approval for any changes
> related to key words from RFC 2119.)
> >>
> >> Tiru and Ben, we have updated this document per your notes
> below. Quick follow-up question:
> >>
> >> Because "PvD" stands for "Provisioning Domain", "using DNR and
> PvD" reads as "using DNR and Provisioning Domain", which reads a
> bit oddly. Should "and PvD" be "and PvDs" or "and a PvD"?
> >
> > Please proceed with "a PvD".
> >
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> >>
> >> RFC Editor/lb
> >
> >
> > > On Jan 15, 2025, at 7:21 AM, tirumal reddy
> <kond...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 at 8:42 PM, Ben Schwartz
> <bem...@meta.com> wrote:
> > > > The term "compliant" here seems to imply that the client is
> adhering to a particular specification but it doesn't add
> meaningful information in this context.
> > >
> > > Without "compliant", I think this sentence is potentially
> ambiguous as to whether we are describing an acceptable behavior
> or an unacceptable behavior. A simpler and clearer (but more
> invasive) change would be:
> > >
> > > NEW:
> > > The client MAY perform ...
> > >
> > > Sounds good to me.
> >
> >
> > > On Jan 15, 2025, at 7:12 AM, Ben Schwartz <bem...@meta.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> The term "compliant" here seems to imply that the client is
> adhering to a particular specification but it doesn't add
> meaningful information in this context.
> > >
> > > Without "compliant", I think this sentence is potentially
> ambiguous as to whether we are describing an acceptable behavior
> or an unacceptable behavior. A simpler and clearer (but more
> invasive) change would be:
> > >
> > > NEW:
> > > The client MAY perform ...
> > >
> > > --Ben
> >
> > > On Jan 15, 2025, at 1:58 AM, tirumal reddy
> <kond...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > All of the changes look good except for the the following 2
> issues:
> > >
> > > 1.
> > >
> > > To ensure that this assumption holds, clients MUST NOT
> relax the
> > > acceptance rules they would otherwise apply when using
> this resolver.
> > > For example, if the client would check the Authenticated
> Data (AD)
> > > bit or validate RRSIGs locally when using this resolver,
> it must also
> > > do so when resolving TXT records for this purpose. A
> compliant
> > > client could perform DNSSEC validation for the
> verification query
> > > even if it has disabled DNSSEC validation for other DNS
> queries.
> > >
> > > Comment>
> > >
> > > The term "compliant" here seems to imply that the client is
> adhering to a particular specification but it doesn't add
> meaningful information in this context. We are not explicitly
> talking about compliance with the DNSSEC standard, but rather the
> behavior of the client in a specific situation. We are proposing
> that clients who have disabled DNSSEC validation for some reason
> (e.g, performance) could enable DNSSEC but only for the
> verification query.
> > >
> > > 2.
> > >
> > > OLD:
> > > *Steps 1-2*: The client determines the network's DNS
> server
> > > (dns.example.net) and PvD ID (pvd.example.com) using
> DNR and one
> > > of the following: DNR Router Solicitation, DHCPv4, or
> DHCPv6.
> > > NEW:
> > > *Steps 1-2*: The client determines the network's DNS
> server
> > > (dns.example.net) and PvD ID (pvd.example.com) using DNR
> and PvD, along with one of
> > > the following: DNR Router Solicitation, DHCPv4, or
> DHCPv6.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > -Tiru
> > >
> > > On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 at 22:00, Lynne Bartholomew
> <lbartholo...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote:
> > > Hi, Dan and Kevin.
> > >
> > > Dan, we have updated your contact information per your note
> below.
> > >
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> > >
> > > RFC Editor/lb
> > >
> > > > On Jan 14, 2025, at 2:29 AM, Kevin Smith, Vodafone
> <kevin.sm...@vodafone.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Please also mark me as Approved – and thanks to all.
> > > > Kevin
> > >
> > > > On Jan 13, 2025, at 2:45 PM, Dan Wing <danw...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > One minor change -- please remove the street address for my
> contact information, as we just closed that building in Santa
> Clara, so:
> > > >
> > > > OLD:
> > > > Dan Wing
> > > > Citrix Systems, Inc.
> > > > 4988 Great America Pkwy
> > > > Santa Clara, CA 95054
> > > > United States of America
> > > > Email: danw...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > NEW:
> > > > Dan Wing
> > > > Citrix Systems, Inc.
> > > > United States of America
> > > > Email: danw...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The existing title page abbreviation for my employer is
> fine as-is ("Citrix").
> > > >
> > > > With that, please mark me as Approved.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > -d
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> On Jan 13, 2025, at 10:23 AM, Lynne Bartholomew
> <lbartholo...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi, Ben and Éric.
> > > >>
> > > >> Ben, we have further updated this document per your note
> below.
> > > >>
> > > >> Éric, we have noted your approval for the updates to
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> > > >>
> > > >> Thank you!
> > > >>
> > > >> RFC Editor/lb
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Jan 10, 2025, at 8:24 AM, Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
> <evyn...@cisco.com> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Hello Lynne,
> > > >>> The changes in section 7 are indeed borderline between
> technical and editorial, but they respect my view of the IETF/ADD
> WG consensus. I.e., I approve these changes.
> > > >>> Regards
> > > >>> -éric
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Jan 10, 2025, at 7:31 AM, Ben Schwartz
> <bem...@meta.com> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>> Section 2:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> OLD:
> > > >>>>> Validated Split Horizon: Indicates that a split-
> horizon
> > > >>>>> configuration for some name is considered
> "validated" if the
> > > >>>>> client has confirmed that a parent of that name has
> authorized
> > > >>>>> this resolver to serve its own responses for that
> name.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> NEW:
> > > >>>>> Validated Split Horizon: A split-horizon
> > > >>>>> configuration for some name is considered
> "validated" if the
> > > >>>>> client has confirmed that a parent of that name has
> authorized
> > > >>>>> this resolver to serve its own responses for that
> name.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> [rfced] We added the word "that" in order to keep the
> sentence-fragment style used in all four list items. Please let
> us know > if you would prefer your complete-sentence style for
> all four items.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Sentence-fragment style is fine, but I find the adjusted
> text hard to parse. Let's try this change:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> OLD:
> > > >>> A split-horizon configuration that for some name is
> considered "validated" if the client has confirmed that a parent
> of that name has authorized this resolver to serve its own
> responses for that name.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> NEW:
> > > >>> A split-horizon configuration that is authorized by the
> parents of the affected names and confirmed by the client.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --Ben
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
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