Hi Lynne, Thank you for this update.
Please see inline. Cheers, Med > -----Message d'origine----- > De : Lynne Bartholomew <lbartholo...@staff.rfc-editor.org> > Envoyé : mardi 21 janvier 2025 20:51 > À : tirumal reddy <kond...@gmail.com>; BOUCADAIR Mohamed > INNOV/NET <mohamed.boucad...@orange.com> > Cc : Ben Schwartz <bem...@meta.com>; Éric Vyncke > <evyn...@cisco.com>; Dan Wing <danw...@gmail.com>; > kevin.sm...@vodafone.com; Ben Schwartz > <bemasc=40meta....@dmarc.ietf.org>; rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org; > Ben Schwartz <i...@bemasc.net>; add-...@ietf.org; add- > cha...@ietf.org; auth48archive@rfc-editor.org > Objet : Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9704 <draft-ietf-add-split-horizon- > authority-14> for your review > > > Hi, Tiru and Med. > > Tiru, we have noted your approval on the AUTH48 status page: > > > https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2 > Fwww.rfc- > editor.org%2Fauth48%2Frfc9704&data=05%7C02%7Cmohamed.boucadair%40 > orange.com%7Cc13836ea188b41ef816508dd3a5531a3%7C90c7a20af34b40bfb > c48b9253b6f5d20%7C0%7C0%7C638730859758428970%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZs > b3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsI > kFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=p17ZoIPFSmcZpB > UZnS0pf1ldYK5UiGU%2F0kWl9w7DeIo%3D&reserved=0 > > Med, we have updated this document per your note below. However, > we're not sure if the updates are correct. > > We followed the style of several recent RFCs, where the note is > placed in the sourcecode in the XML file where applicable. In > addition to the record entry at the end of Section 5.1, we > applied this style to Figures 1, 3, and 4 accordingly. [Med] I'm afraid that the note use is not correct for figures 3/4: the unfolding wouldn't apply per Section 7.2.2 of 8792 "backslash ('\') character immediately followed by the end-of-line character sequence"). I suggest you delete the note for these two figures. > > Also, FYI that we now receive the following warning from xml2rfc: > > Warning: Unused reference: There seems to be no reference to > [RFC8792] in the document > > Please let us know if you would prefer that the note only appear > in Section 5.1. [Med] I suggest that it only appears in 5.1 + Figure 1. Thanks. > > The latest files are posted here. Please refresh your browser: > > .. > > Thank you! > > RFC Editor/lb > > > > On Jan 17, 2025, at 3:10 AM, mohamed.boucad...@orange.com > wrote: > > > > Hi Lynne, all, > > > > One comment about: > > > > CURRENT: > > Long lines in examples are wrapped using a single backslash > ("\") per > > [RFC8792]. > > > > I would reinsert back this text that was deleted: > > > > "NOTE: '\' line wrapping per [RFC8792]" > > > > > > The reasoning is this MUST from 8792: > > > > == > > Text content that has been folded as specified by this > strategy MUST > > adhere to the following structure. > > > > 7.1.1. Header > > > > The header is two lines long. > > > > The first line is the following 36-character string; this > string MAY > > be surrounded by any number of printable characters. This > first line > > cannot itself be folded. > > > > NOTE: '\' line wrapping per RFC 8792 > > > > The second line is an empty line, containing only the end-of- > line > > character sequence. This line provides visual separation for > > readability. > > ... > > == > > > > Thank you. > > > > Cheers, > > Med (Doc Shepherd) > > > On Jan 17, 2025, at 2:49 AM, tirumal reddy <kond...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Thank you for the changes. The update looks good to me and I > approve the publication. > > > > Cheers, > > -Tiru > > > > On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 at 22:29, Lynne Bartholomew > <lbartholo...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote: > > Hi, Tiru, Ben, and Éric. > > > > Tiru and Ben, we have further updated this document per your > notes below. Ben, no miscommunication; apologies for missing the > change from "A compliant" to "The" earlier. > > > > Éric, yes, we were asking about the last sentence in Section > 6.1. Apologies for not being clearer. 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> > > > RFC Editor/lb > > > > > On Jan 16, 2025, at 5:51 AM, Ben Schwartz <bem...@meta.com> > wrote: > > > > > > I think there was a small miscommunication here. I think we > intended the following text: > > > > > > OLD: "A compliant client MAY perform ..." > > > NEW: "The client MAY perform ..." > > > > > > --Ben > > > > > > > On Jan 15, 2025, at 10:25 PM, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) > <evyn...@cisco.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hello Lynne, > > > I only find a change in a MAY in section 6.1 s/ > Alternatively, a client might perform DNSSEC validation/A > compliant client MAY perform DNSSEC validation/. Is it this one > you are asking about ? It this is the case, then it is approved. > > > Regards > > > -éric > > > > > On Jan 15, 2025, at 9:57 PM, tirumal reddy > <kond...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 at 22:18, Lynne Bartholomew > <lbartholo...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote: > > >> Hi, Tiru, Ben, and Éric* > > >> > > >> * Éric, please let us know if you approve the change from > "could" to "MAY". 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https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2 > Fwww.rfc-editor.org%2Fauthors%2Frfc9704- > xmldiff2.html&data=05%7C02%7Cmohamed.boucadair%40orange.com%7Cc13 > 836ea188b41ef816508dd3a5531a3%7C90c7a20af34b40bfbc48b9253b6f5d20% > 7C0%7C0%7C638730859758708926%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1h > cGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsI > ldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=JQctjsGi4du670fWXi4nFIcRYTHTxD > G2Cq2AAtV%2BCx8%3D&reserved=0 > > >> > > >> Thank you! > > >> > > >> RFC Editor/lb > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 15, 2025, at 7:21 AM, tirumal reddy > <kond...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 at 8:42 PM, Ben Schwartz > <bem...@meta.com> wrote: > > > > > The term "compliant" here seems to imply that the client > is adhering to a particular specification but it doesn't add > meaningful information in this context. > > > > > > > > Without "compliant", I think this sentence is potentially > ambiguous as to whether we are describing an acceptable behavior > or an unacceptable behavior. A simpler and clearer (but more > invasive) change would be: > > > > > > > > NEW: > > > > The client MAY perform ... > > > > > > > > Sounds good to me. > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 15, 2025, at 7:12 AM, Ben Schwartz <bem...@meta.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > >> The term "compliant" here seems to imply that the client > is adhering to a particular specification but it doesn't add > meaningful information in this context. > > > > > > > > Without "compliant", I think this sentence is potentially > ambiguous as to whether we are describing an acceptable behavior > or an unacceptable behavior. A simpler and clearer (but more > invasive) change would be: > > > > > > > > NEW: > > > > The client MAY perform ... > > > > > > > > --Ben > > > > > > > On Jan 15, 2025, at 1:58 AM, tirumal reddy > <kond...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > All of the changes look good except for the the following 2 > issues: > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > To ensure that this assumption holds, clients MUST NOT > relax the > > > > acceptance rules they would otherwise apply when using > this resolver. > > > > For example, if the client would check the Authenticated > Data (AD) > > > > bit or validate RRSIGs locally when using this resolver, > it must also > > > > do so when resolving TXT records for this purpose. A > compliant > > > > client could perform DNSSEC validation for the > verification query > > > > even if it has disabled DNSSEC validation for other DNS > queries. > > > > > > > > Comment> > > > > > > > > The term "compliant" here seems to imply that the client is > adhering to a particular specification but it doesn't add > meaningful information in this context. We are not explicitly > talking about compliance with the DNSSEC standard, but rather the > behavior of the client in a specific situation. We are proposing > that clients who have disabled DNSSEC validation for some reason > (e.g, performance) could enable DNSSEC but only for the > verification query. > > > > > > > > 2. > > > > > > > > OLD: > > > > *Steps 1-2*: The client determines the network's DNS > server > > > > (dns.example.net) and PvD ID (pvd.example.com) using > DNR and one > > > > of the following: DNR Router Solicitation, DHCPv4, or > DHCPv6. > > > > NEW: > > > > *Steps 1-2*: The client determines the network's DNS > server > > > > (dns.example.net) and PvD ID (pvd.example.com) using > DNR and PvD, along with one of > > > > the following: DNR Router Solicitation, DHCPv4, or > DHCPv6. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > -Tiru > > > > > > > > On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 at 22:00, Lynne Bartholomew > <lbartholo...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote: > > > > Hi, Dan and Kevin. > > > > > > > > Dan, we have updated your contact information per your note > below. > > > > > > > > We have noted both of your approvals on the AUTH48 status > page: > > > > > > > > > https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2 > Fwww.rfc- > editor.org%2Fauth48%2Frfc9704&data=05%7C02%7Cmohamed.boucadair%40 > orange.com%7Cc13836ea188b41ef816508dd3a5531a3%7C90c7a20af34b40bfb > c48b9253b6f5d20%7C0%7C0%7C638730859758716760%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZs > b3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsI > kFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=NI9nE4xyFfzzHI > keLbGa1PNP7lHDYVAQjDvllcUdkjs%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > > > The latest files are posted here. 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> > > > > Dan Wing > > > > > Citrix Systems, Inc. > > > > > 4988 Great America Pkwy > > > > > Santa Clara, CA 95054 > > > > > United States of America > > > > > Email: danw...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > NEW: > > > > > Dan Wing > > > > > Citrix Systems, Inc. > > > > > United States of America > > > > > Email: danw...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The existing title page abbreviation for my employer is > fine as-is ("Citrix"). > > > > > > > > > > With that, please mark me as Approved. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > -d > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Jan 13, 2025, at 10:23 AM, Lynne Bartholomew > <lbartholo...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> Hi, Ben and Éric. > > > > >> > > > > >> Ben, we have further updated this document per your note > below. > > > > >> > > > > >> Éric, we have noted your approval for the updates to > Section 7 on the AUTH48 status page: > > > > >> > > > > >> > 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I.e., I approve these changes. > > > > >>> Regards > > > > >>> -éric > > > > >> > > > > >>> On Jan 10, 2025, at 7:31 AM, Ben Schwartz > <bem...@meta.com> wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>> Section 2: > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> OLD: > > > > >>>>> Validated Split Horizon: Indicates that a split- > horizon > > > > >>>>> configuration for some name is considered > "validated" if the > > > > >>>>> client has confirmed that a parent of that name > has authorized > > > > >>>>> this resolver to serve its own responses for that > name. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> NEW: > > > > >>>>> Validated Split Horizon: A split-horizon > > > > >>>>> configuration for some name is considered > "validated" if the > > > > >>>>> client has confirmed that a parent of that name > has authorized > > > > >>>>> this resolver to serve its own responses for that > name. > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> [rfced] We added the word "that" in order to keep the > sentence-fragment style used in all four list items. Please let > us know > if you would prefer your complete-sentence style for > all four items. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Sentence-fragment style is fine, but I find the > adjusted text hard to parse. Let's try this change: > > > > >>> > > > > >>> OLD: > > > > >>> A split-horizon configuration that for some name is > considered "validated" if the client has confirmed that a parent > of that name has authorized this resolver to serve its own > responses for that name. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> NEW: > > > > >>> A split-horizon configuration that is authorized by the > parents of the affected names and confirmed by the client. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> --Ben > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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